Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Nov 2012 20:54 UTC, submitted by Elv13
Gnome "Theme development is a tedious and difficult task, and for the GTK devs to be so careless in breaking their API at every turn disrespects the many hours people put into making themes for it. [...] I was given to believe that this breakage stems from a Microsoft-like climate of preventing users from customizing their systems, and deliberately breaking the work of others so that your 'brand' is the best. Anytime I hear the word 'brand' being used in Linux, I know something valuable is being poisoned." I find the tone of this one a bit too harsh and overly negative at times, but his point still stands.
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RE[12]: Why not use Qt?
by woegjiub on Sat 10th Nov 2012 00:20 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Why not use Qt?"
woegjiub
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2008-11-25

That actually looks great. I would nix the taskbar obviously, as I use alt-tabbing and desktops, but other than that, much better than I thought the LXPanel could look.

Also, I was reading up on the KDE release plan, and 4.10 (out in January) has a folder drawer widget, which would seem to be exactly what you wanted.

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RE[13]: Why not use Qt?
by ssokolow on Sat 10th Nov 2012 00:27 in reply to "RE[12]: Why not use Qt?"
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2010-01-21

That actually looks great. I would nix the taskbar obviously, as I use alt-tabbing and desktops, but other than that, much better than I thought the LXPanel could look.


Makes sense. You might have noticed I don't have a desktop pager. That's because I have a Logitech G3 mouse and bound the fourth and fifth buttons to previous and next desktop.

I find that, with pixmap-themable UIs, what often happens is that the developers build a theming system with a lot of power but then don't know anyone with the artistic skill to properly show it off.

The default LXPanel look and feel is definitely dated but, as those screenshots show, all it took was some better skinning (from the Lubuntu guys) and a little tweaking the tray icons for better consistency (me) to get a really nice-looking panel.

(I was actually the one who got the ball rolling for themability in FireTray. I didn't have the time to learn the codebase and provide a patch, but I did file the bug and include a detailed explanation of how to use GTK+'s icon lookup API)

Also, I was reading up on the KDE release plan, and 4.10 (out in January) has a folder drawer widget, which would seem to be exactly what you wanted.


Nice. Do they give enough detail to know whether you'll be able to configure it to interpret subfolders as submenus? (Because I often go three or four layers in before I choose to open the file manager)

Edited 2012-11-10 00:46 UTC

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RE[14]: Why not use Qt?
by woegjiub on Sat 10th Nov 2012 15:45 in reply to "RE[13]: Why not use Qt?"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

You might have noticed I don't have a desktop pager. That's because I have a Logitech G3 mouse and bound the fourth and fifth buttons to previous and next desktop.

Can't say I did; I barely touch the mouse, so I don't use pagers when there are easy key combinations for swapping and moving.

I find that, with pixmap-themable UIs, what often happens is that the developers build a theming system with a lot of power but then don't know anyone with the artistic skill to properly show it off.

The default LXPanel look and feel is definitely dated but, as those screenshots show, all it took was some better skinning (from the Lubuntu guys) and a little tweaking the tray icons for better consistency (me) to get a really nice-looking panel.

(I was actually the one who got the ball rolling for themability in FireTray. I didn't have the time to learn the codebase and provide a patch, but I did file the bug and include a detailed explanation of how to use GTK+'s icon lookup API)

Definitely true. FOSS seems to have devs galore, but not many people working on documentation, and even fewer on art.


Nice. Do they give enough detail to know whether you'll be able to configure it to interpret subfolders as submenus? (Because I often go three or four layers in before I choose to open the file manager)

Unfortunately not, but given that the folder-style one allows it, it would not be unreasonable to imagine so, considering it may well be a remake of that, with list instead of icon view.

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