Linked by pepa on Fri 9th Nov 2012 23:18 UTC
Gnome "I'm writing to inform you that the release team discussed Drop or Fix Fallback Mode yesterday. We've come to the conclusion that we can't maintain fallback mode in reasonable quality, and are better off dropping it." Gnome-fallback has been my refuge, as I find both Unity and Gnome 3's shell unusable. Yes, we have been warned this would happen. I thought the cost of maintaining gnome-panel would be so low that it might never need to happen. But as it appears, it is deemed necessary. As for me, I'm bound for something Qt, as I am very angry at Gnome for abandoning its 'classic' users.
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RE[2]: XFCE
by ndrw on Sat 10th Nov 2012 15:28 UTC in reply to "RE: XFCE"
ndrw
Member since:
2009-06-30

> missed a number of important things

Examples?

I would say the opposite - other desktops miss a number of important things (except for KDE and Emacs, of course).

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RE[3]: XFCE
by pepa on Sat 10th Nov 2012 16:56 in reply to "RE[2]: XFCE"
pepa Member since:
2005-07-08

I tried XFCE4 a number of times over the last year and a half. I really miss:

- Freedom of positioning of icons (I use my Desktop like I use the top of my desk, I put current files on it). But you can run XFCE with some other file managers (eg. Nautilus) to take care of this.

- The Gnome clock, with the multiple locations, sunlight-over-the-globe and weather reports. (The whole point of this article is, that this will no longer be maintained by Gnome).

- The Gnome volume control, that allows you to set the volume output “over 100%”, I don’t know yet how to do this in XFCE4 (though VLC will do this by itself).

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RE[4]: XFCE
by ndrw on Sat 10th Nov 2012 17:48 in reply to "RE[3]: XFCE"
ndrw Member since:
2009-06-30

Thanks, that's helpful. Chances are some of your issues will be (or have already been) addressed.

- Manual icon positioning on desktop seems to work fine here. Did you encounter any bugs or were you simply using an older version of Xfce?

- Xfce doesn't come with a Gnome clock and it does some things differently (more often than not, that's good). Weather reports are in a Weather plugin. A worldclock indeed is missing (thank you for the suggestion), but you can add several Orage clocks each set to a different time zone - I'm using this method myself.

- Volume control (a mixer plugin) has recently been improved but I still prefer Xubuntu's sound indicator. Not sure what you mean by "over 100%" output volume (is it some sort of a workaround for a bug elsewhere?)

Of course, there will always be Gnome2 or Ubuntu applets/indicators which are not in Xfce and often there is no reason to duplicate the effort. For these applets you can use an XfApplet plugin (works with Mate's applets) or an Indicator plugin (currently works with Gtk2 indicators).

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