Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 11th Nov 2012 15:49 UTC
Windows "Yesterday my desktop died, and so I went ahead and got a brand new Windows 8 laptop. It's always been my feeling that as years go on, user experience has been going down for people who use a computer and the Internet, because of decisions all companies make that are clearly anti-user, either because they think they know best, or in many cases, for financial gains. But from spending all night reinstalling everything and customizing the laptop, I realized just how bad it has become." Probably the biggest reason to go Mac or Linux. Such a shame Microsoft found it more important to pressure OEMs into silly Secure Boot nonsense instead of doing something about the anti-user crapware disaster. Goes to show who Microsoft cares about. Hint: it ain't you.
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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Mon 12th Nov 2012 16:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
ilovebeer
Member since:
2011-08-08

Once you've got the OS running, you still need a lot more: drivers and hardware-related software, some office suite, some e-mail program, some antivirus/security software, a better web browser, a better video player, and even basic tools such as a PDF reader.
That's definitely a lot of work, and very time consuming.

I install Windows 7 boxes frequently along with all or most of what you've listed. It never takes several hours, much less all night. That's completely ridiculous. If it's taking that long, you're doing something wrong.

Yes, MS are in a large part responsible for this.
That's their OS, they get to decide what goes with it.
They define the rules, and OEMs can only comply.
Obviously, the current rules do not benefit the end-user.

Microsoft is not responsible for the crap OEMs install. It's the OEMs decision to load your new system with a bunch of garbage toolbars and stupid trial apps. Microsoft does not force any of this, it's 100% OEM decision to do so.

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RE[3]: Comment by ilovebeer
by zlynx on Mon 12th Nov 2012 20:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer"
zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

It takes me at least four hours to get my Windows system back where I like it.

Windows install. Video card driver update. Windows updates. Restore user files from backup. Install Steam, start game downloads or a restore. Install LibreOffice, VS2010 C# and C++, Thunderbird, Firefox, Foxit, Pidgin, Java JDK, Eclipse, VirtualBox. More Windows updates for the VS2010 stuff. Remember that I wanted Doom 3, dig around in the closet until I find the box. Install that. Realize that I need special software for the surround sound headphones and the mouse. Dig through Logitech's website to find it.

Etc, etc.

Easily a full night after work and dinner, and I always seem to forget things that I need later on, so really it drags on for weeks.

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