Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th Nov 2012 15:56 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Can you believe they've come this far by now? Once known as OpenBeOS, Haiku today announced the release of the fourth alpha for Haiku R1. It seems like only yesterday when BeOS died and OpenBeOS rose form its ashes, generating a new hope among the legions of avid BeOS fans. Now, almost twelve years later, we've hit the fourth alpha.
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Sarcasm much?
by aliquis on Mon 12th Nov 2012 18:20 UTC
aliquis
Member since:
2005-07-23

Imho Haiku, Syllable and AROS always seemed like a little waste of talent and interest in what could had been a common cause.

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RE: Sarcasm much?
by saimon69 on Mon 12th Nov 2012 19:45 in reply to "Sarcasm much?"
saimon69 Member since:
2008-10-26

Well not everybody like the linux way in doing stuff; in this haiku seems a good plan B so far, hoping that also AROS (that am advocating) will come to be usable for modern computing needs soon too.

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RE[2]: Sarcasm much?
by zima on Mon 12th Nov 2012 22:09 in reply to "RE: Sarcasm much?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

IIRC AROS doesn't even really plan introducing proper memory protection? (since it would break compatibility too much?) Can an OS without that be really modern?

Oh well, at least still fun; and I think I like your avatar, is that some cat marvelled with a running instance of AROS? :p

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RE[2]: Sarcasm much?
by aliquis on Tue 13th Nov 2012 15:58 in reply to "RE: Sarcasm much?"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

But then again I never mentioned Linux.

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RE: Sarcasm much?
by djohnston on Mon 12th Nov 2012 22:01 in reply to "Sarcasm much?"
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2006-04-11

I don't see how they can have a "common cause". AROS is a recreation of the AmigaOS and Syllable is an extension of AtheOS. Haiku, of course, is a recreation of BeOS. Each has a different API and code base.

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RE: Sarcasm much?
by Morgan on Tue 13th Nov 2012 02:09 in reply to "Sarcasm much?"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

To each their own, I guess. I prefer to focus on the positive side, in that Haiku still makes progress after all these years. The quality of the nightly releases over the last year is simply amazing considering the size of the team and the struggles of recreating an entire commercial OS from scratch.

I realize that Haiku may not have as much relevance today as it did five years ago, but I have faith that the R1 version will be a viable platform for those who want something different.

On a personal level, I'm looking forward to seeing new and updated DAW software for the platform, as that was its biggest draw for me back when Be Inc. was still alive.

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RE: Sarcasm much?
by henderson101 on Tue 13th Nov 2012 12:15 in reply to "Sarcasm much?"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

That common cause being...? As many others point out, Linux is not what these developers want. The API of all three are incompatible (though Syllable mimics the BeAPI quite a lot.) They all strive for a different goal. What commonality are you seeing here?

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RE[2]: Sarcasm much?
by aliquis on Tue 13th Nov 2012 15:57 in reply to "RE: Sarcasm much?"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

The developers are of course free to do what they want with their time.

Me I just want a good OS. It doesn't have to be what AmigaOS was in my case.

For me personally I would likely had benefited if they all had worked together on a common OS because well, then maybe I would had used that instead of not using either of them as is today. Though Icaros desktop seem very interesting and something I kinda would had wanted to run by now.

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RE[2]: Sarcasm much?
by aliquis on Tue 13th Nov 2012 16:00 in reply to "RE: Sarcasm much?"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

I guess one way too see it is that Syllable seemed like something which kinda wanted to take the good stuff / hints from BeOS and AmigaOS and use them anyway. But it's not really neither.

Haiku is focused on being what BeOS was. Or at least was focused on that. Rather than being what BeOS could had been, BeOS would had been now or an OS with the same benefits as BeOS but something new.

Similarly AROS always was about being like AmigaOS on x86. Not a modern OS with the benefits of AmigaOS only better.

I liked AmigaOS but I'm not using and wouldn't really want to use AmigaOS now almost 30 years later. I don't really see why that should be your goal. I'd rather have something new.

Your interest and opinion may be different.
There's of course MorphOS and SkyOS to. And IMHO that's a lot of talent and ideas and work put into all those and more products without neither one becoming a larger player as is. They would of course had reached longer if they all had worked on the same product ;) , though then maybe variation and different ideas is better and as some people for whatever reason has mentioned not everyone want Linux and while that was never what I said not everyone might had wanted that Syllable+Haiku+AROS+SkyOS+MorphOS-developers product. Me I might had been interested ;)

Edited 2012-11-13 16:05 UTC

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RE: Sarcasm much?
by Soulbender on Wed 14th Nov 2012 01:51 in reply to "Sarcasm much?"
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2005-08-18

always seemed like a little waste of talent and interest


If these people enjoy what they're doing it's not a waste.

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