Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Nov 2012 22:24 UTC
AMD "Advanced Micro Devices has hired JPMorgan Chase & Co to explore options, which could include a potential sale, as the chipmaker struggles to find a role in an industry increasingly focused on mobile and away from traditional PCs, according to three sources familiar with the situation." Woah. Bad news for competition in the x86 space.
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RE[3]: x86
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 14th Nov 2012 15:04 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: x86"
Bill Shooter of Bul
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2006-07-14

I don't know the specific answer to that question. What I do know is that alphas were a generation or two ahead of x86 back in the 90's in terms of performance and they were effectively killed by politics as soon as compaq and HP merged.

Sparcs were better too, but Sun/Oracle have always ben kind of a pain to deal with. But yeah, if Sparcs were doing better than they are now for workstation/desktop class computers I'd feel better.

MIPS? Don't know much about the arch other than its not really around, other than the Chinese processor and in the embedded side everyone seems to be choosing arm over mips.

ARM? I do kind of feel better now that arm is making its way up from the bottom. It will be interesting to see if they can really match x86 on the higher end rather than just being more energy efficient.

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RE[4]: x86
by Flatland_Spider on Wed 14th Nov 2012 16:34 in reply to "RE[3]: x86"
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2006-09-01

I remember reading Sparc was hamstrung by it's sliding register window. It gets wide really well because of the window, but that window keeps it from scaling to high clockspeeds.

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RE[4]: x86
by zima on Thu 15th Nov 2012 06:15 in reply to "RE[3]: x86"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

What I do know is that alphas were a generation or two ahead of x86 back in the 90's in terms of performance and they were effectively killed by politics [...]
Sparcs were better too

Early to mid-90s ...but IIRC P6 largely bridged the gap. BTW, K7 was designed also by people who came from Alpha team, it uses the EV6 bus of Alphas (there were some plans for Alphas on Slot A, IIRC - too bad they didn't come to fruition, it could be interesting)

MIPS is used in plenty of routers and such.

Generally, WRT x86 versus ARM - curious that the former started as something meant really for the embedded market, the latter as a desktop processor for Acorn Archimedes ...but they both came to dominate the "other" market.

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RE[5]: x86
by galvanash on Fri 16th Nov 2012 21:38 in reply to "RE[4]: x86"
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2006-01-25

K7 was designed also by people who came from Alpha team, it uses the EV6 bus of Alphas (there were some plans for Alphas on Slot A, IIRC - too bad they didn't come to fruition, it could be interesting)


Samsung did ship a series of motherboards using the irongate/irongate-2 chipset (AMD 751/761 Northbridge), the UP1000, UP1100, and UP1500. They were, for all intents and purposes, pretty much identical to standard Athlon motherboards - they were PCI/AGP boards using standard PC southbridge chips. They just had different sockets (originally Slot B and later Socket B - which had more pins than the standard AMD packaging design to hold Samgung fabbed Allpha EV67/EV68 processors).

Edited 2012-11-16 21:40 UTC

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