Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Nov 2012 21:36 UTC
Windows My new phone arrived today: a blue HTC 8X, running Windows Phone 8. As a huge Windows Phone fan put off by several persistent issues in Windows Phone 7.x, I'm basically giving this platform another shot, and in this day and age such a second chance doesn't come cheap: the 8X is 539 EUR, after all. Here's a few quick first impressions after less than a day of use.
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RE: MS dropped the ball
by kaiwai on Thu 15th Nov 2012 01:59 UTC in reply to "MS dropped the ball"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

By this point, MS should've had WinRT ported to phones, so you could run the same applications on phone, tablet, and desktop (and probably Xbox too). Why they haven't done this is beyond me.

Speaking of WP8 though, do they have a decent Google Voice client available?


You do realise that you write WinRT applications on Windows Phone 8? that is what all the excitement is about, being able to write native applications on Windows Phone 8 rather than being forced to use the Silverlight environment along with its limitations.

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RE[2]: MS dropped the ball
by WorknMan on Thu 15th Nov 2012 02:10 in reply to "RE: MS dropped the ball"
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2005-11-13

You do realise that you write WinRT applications on Windows Phone 8? that is what all the excitement is about, being able to write native applications on Windows Phone 8 rather than being forced to use the Silverlight environment along with its limitations.


Really? So what's the difference between it and Windows RT on tablets/desktops? I'd figure by this point, you'd be able to write an app that ran on all 3, taking into account differences in resolution and screen real-estate, of course.

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RE[3]: MS dropped the ball
by kaiwai on Thu 15th Nov 2012 02:22 in reply to "RE[2]: MS dropped the ball"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Really? So what's the difference between it and Windows RT on tablets/desktops? I'd figure by this point, you'd be able to write an app that ran on all 3, taking into account differences in resolution and screen real-estate, of course.


Windows RT runs on ARM tablets, WinRT is the Windows Run Time, and Windows Phone 8 is for phones. WinRT is present on Windows RT, Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8. The difference between Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT is Windows RT includes a desktop but you cannot run or install win32 applications where as with Windows Phone 8 there is included a stripped down version of Microsoft Office designed for the phone but doesn't have win32 or desktop functionality. As for why Microsoft has included win32 and desktop functionality - because it appears that Microsoft want to provide a full Office 2013 experience to end users rather than a castrated stripped down phone version.

Edited 2012-11-15 02:27 UTC

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RE[2]: MS dropped the ball
by Moochman on Thu 15th Nov 2012 08:07 in reply to "RE: MS dropped the ball"
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2005-07-06

Not quite. Windows Phone 8 runs applications written for WinPRT, which is similar to, but still not quite the same as, WinRT.

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RE[3]: MS dropped the ball
by kaiwai on Thu 15th Nov 2012 14:25 in reply to "RE[2]: MS dropped the ball"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Not quite. Windows Phone 8 runs applications written for WinPRT, which is similar to, but still not quite the same as, WinRT.


Thank you for the correction - do you have a link handy with some sort of matrix outlining the differences?

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