Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Nov 2012 21:36 UTC
Windows My new phone arrived today: a blue HTC 8X, running Windows Phone 8. As a huge Windows Phone fan put off by several persistent issues in Windows Phone 7.x, I'm basically giving this platform another shot, and in this day and age such a second chance doesn't come cheap: the 8X is 539 EUR, after all. Here's a few quick first impressions after less than a day of use.
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RE[3]: MS dropped the ball
by kaiwai on Thu 15th Nov 2012 02:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: MS dropped the ball"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Really? So what's the difference between it and Windows RT on tablets/desktops? I'd figure by this point, you'd be able to write an app that ran on all 3, taking into account differences in resolution and screen real-estate, of course.


Windows RT runs on ARM tablets, WinRT is the Windows Run Time, and Windows Phone 8 is for phones. WinRT is present on Windows RT, Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8. The difference between Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT is Windows RT includes a desktop but you cannot run or install win32 applications where as with Windows Phone 8 there is included a stripped down version of Microsoft Office designed for the phone but doesn't have win32 or desktop functionality. As for why Microsoft has included win32 and desktop functionality - because it appears that Microsoft want to provide a full Office 2013 experience to end users rather than a castrated stripped down phone version.

Edited 2012-11-15 02:27 UTC

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RE[4]: MS dropped the ball
by moondevil on Thu 15th Nov 2012 08:08 in reply to "RE[3]: MS dropped the ball"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

And everything is fully native on Windows Phone 8, even .NET gets fully compiled to native code, not JITting is done.

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RE[5]: MS dropped the ball
by Nelson on Thu 15th Nov 2012 17:16 in reply to "RE[4]: MS dropped the ball"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Almost. There is some on-device compilation (Converting MDIL to native machine code, but its much faster than JITing MSIL using ngen or something).

It seems like this technology (Cloud compilation) is a rung above even what Windows 8 offers (Install time NGen as a Service) for .NET applications.

I wonder if cloud compilation will work for WP7 devices, it'd be nice to get some improved start up time on some apps.

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RE[4]: MS dropped the ball
by Radio on Thu 15th Nov 2012 12:05 in reply to "RE[3]: MS dropped the ball"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

My eyes and my brain hurts.

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