Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Nov 2012 22:12 UTC
Internet Explorer "In Windows 8, we reimagined the browser with IE10. We designed and built IE10 to be the best way to experience the Web on Windows. With the IE10 Release Preview for Windows 7 consumers can now enjoy a fast and fluid Web with the updated IE10 engine on their Windows 7 devices. The release preview of IE10 on Windows 7 is available for download today."
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Bug reports and other requests for standards support are ignored for years by IE developers. There have been incessant requests for support for SVG and PNG that were ignored by the IE team for over a decade, and bug reports which alluded to the lack of support for standards were simply marked as "will not fix" or "will not implement".

Maybe a decade ago, but if you actually watched the video I have linked, they are actually trying to get developers to contribute.

Also they have good reasons for not implementing some standards. Unlike other browsers development teams (cough cough Chrome) they don't implement features when badly for the sake of it after IE6 (IE6 worked with the draft standard at the time, and was changed signicantly afterwards).

Vorbis format was standardised in 2003 and in 2006 it was proposed as a web standard for audio, yet it is still not implemented in IE to this very day. IE is no less than six years behind the times.

No it isn't, I could probably point to a lot of other features that have just turned up in browsers in the last few years (font-face has been present since IE 4.0 I believe).

Picking one possible web standard and saying IE is behind is ridiculous.

Also IE8 was the first browser to implement CSS 2.1 and XHTML 1.1 correctly.

Instead, Microsoft pushed proprietary methods such as WMV and WMA, ActiveX and Silverlight, in a transparent attempt to make it all-but-mandatory to use IE (and hence Windows) as the only way to access the "full, rich-content" web. "Rich content" is Microsoft's own term, BTW. Such attempts should rightly be vehemently opposed by all fair-minded people.

In the past they have yes, pushed stuff like this. I agree it is shitty. However that is simply not the case anymore.

If you actually watch the video they are actually listening to developers and know they simply cannot do that anymore.

There is a massive push in the .NET community to support web-standards as well, coming from Microsoft.

Since I actually work in this industry and use Microsoft Products to make web applications that are conform to standards (I actually really care about web standards). Before and .NET 3.0 it was very difficult to do things that would conform to standards ... now it is easy.

The very saddest thing in all this is that you apparently think I am trolling in this.

It doesn't matter what I say on the subject, you will doggedly keep the same opinion no matter what.

So you are either trolling, or you are delibrately being ignorant. I don't care which.

Let me assure you I am not. Microsoft's attempts to make the web a walled garden for access only by using Microsoft products as clients is amongst the very worst of their monopolistic anti-trust behaviour, and it has been so for decades. Even a simple-minded fool knows this to be so.

I actually work in this industry. I have seen a massive change in the way Microsoft has been pushing its ASP.NET web stack since 2008. A lot of it is inspired by the Ruby and Python communities.

Lets not forget they made the whole MVC stack Open Source and they even now have a package manager that makes it easy to use Open Source projects in your web application.

All you are doing is simply repeating criticisms that are almost a decade are and simply aren't true anymore.

Edited 2012-11-15 12:53 UTC

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