Linked by Howard Fosdick on Fri 16th Nov 2012 07:43 UTC
Windows A California man is suing Microsoft, alledging that his Surface tablet did not provide the advertised amount of disk space. The 32G device has 16G of space for users, as the operating system uses the other 16G. The 64G Surface leaves 45G free for users. The case will turn on whether Microsoft has clearly explained to customers how much free space the Surface leaves for their use outside of the OS. How much disk space does your OS consume?
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UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

Bloated ... it is called features.

Last I checked, the version of KDE4 that openSUSE comes with now doesn't exactly blow away the KDE3 that came in older versions of SuSE. Meanwhile, it does eclipse its predecessor when it comes to sucking up resources (especially memory). And it's even managed to add some incredibly annoying and downright resource-hogging services in the process. Don't even get me started with the joke that is GNOME 3 that it comes with.

That said, while I am using KDE (mostly because I haven't yet decided upon another distro to use and so far most stuff working as I want it), bloat is bloat, and not all of it is just simple, useful features. Some of it is pure garbage. And that goes for certain aspects of many operating systems these days, unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a modern desktop environment or other piece of software *must* be a resource hogging pig in order to do what we have come to expect in years past with far fewer resources.

GNOME 3 is especially hilarious; it's more feature-free than ever before and probably getting worse by the week, yet Debian is dropping it for Xfce because the damn thing can no longer even fit on a single CD-ROM. What's ironic is that Metro almost fits perfectly with this description of GNOME 3... yikes.

Get you little dig in about the fact there is 1 add if you spend five minutes scrolling to the end.

Five minutes? Those apps are so worthless, I never even spent much more than a minute in them. And the only reason I was even in there that long because I figured, there just has to be *something* worthwhile here. But nope; just an ad at the end of the tunnel.

We live in an age where even SSD disks for Desktops/Laptops is about 1/4 of a gig. Who cares?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Are you drunk or something? I thought this article and discussion was about a *lack* of free space due to the OS hogging it up (specifically, Windows 8), and you go on about... 256GB drives? What? Can you put one of those things in a Surface? And should we really be expected to throw away even more money on yet another product because the original product itself is inadequate right off the shelf? Sounds like an unnecessary waste to me, and an unnecessary pat on the back to all the bloatware producers of the world.

Edited 2012-11-16 09:08 UTC

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

2 million albums? Wow, I have a few hundred, and even in Ogg Vorbis at quality level 2 they end up taking a total of around 9-10 gigs.A halfway decent quality (which level 2 is not) would be more like 12-14GB (don't remember the exacts, it's been a while since I tested myself). And I personally wouldn't even put HD videos on a portable device, lower res is fine with me, but with videos the sizes add up fast.

I struggle to keep even my favorite albums on the 2GB microSD card that came with my phone.

Edited 2012-11-16 09:26 UTC

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0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05


Oh yeah because on a portable device I am going to take more than 10 1080p movies (on a 720p screen) and 2million albums and 4 zillion word documents.

It stinks of first world problems.


Jesus christ are you ever retarded.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

It stinks of first world problems.


I think someone has been reading memes too much and doesn't anymore know what the meaning of this particular one is.

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Oh yeah because on a portable device I am going to take more than 10 1080p movies (on a 720p screen) and 2million albums and 4 zillion word documents.


I know you're being sarcastic, but this is exactly what people do with laptops. You did forget the mountains of cat pics, though.

It stinks of first world problems.


I think we all know we're very fortunate that our biggest problems are arguing about computers.

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r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh yeah because on a portable device I am going to take more than 10 1080p movies (on a 720p screen) and 2million albums and 4 zillion word documents.

It stinks of first world problems.


So in essence you are saying the Surface is an OLPC...

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I thought this article and discussion was about a *lack* of free space due to the OS hogging it up (specifically, Windows 8), and you go on about... 256GB drives?

Note that if anyone notices that glaring screw-up, yes, I did mean 256MB. I think in the context it was said it should be an obvious mistake, but in case anyone is confused this is the clarification. 256MB really ain't shit these days, honestly... and for normal use, even a 2GB drive is too small as I pointed out in other replies. Even for acceptable-but-low-quality audio and video files files.

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Finalzone Member since:
2005-07-06

GNOME 3 is especially hilarious; it's more feature-free than ever before and probably getting worse by the week, yet Debian is dropping it for Xfce because the damn thing can no longer even fit on a single CD-ROM.


Before speculating, better ask Debian committee themselves:
https://plus.google.com/110356875332222535709/posts/46wiyitnqpJ

Gnome is still the default in Debian and its packages are rebuilt in xz format to fit in CD-ROM.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

They had switched to XFCE, and then switched back:

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commitdif...

Phoronix was right, so it looks like Jeremy Bicha didn't know what was going on.

GNOME is the default today and could still be the default for release.

Very reassuring.

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