Linked by Howard Fosdick on Fri 23rd Nov 2012 14:03 UTC
In the News Hard to believe, but articles are popping up at business websites claiming that venerable Hewlett-Packard may fail. In their most recent fiasco, HP wrote off a loss of $8.8 of their $11.1 US billion acquisition of Autonomy and have alleged fraud in the deal. Revenue is down 7% from a year ago and the stock has hit a 10-year low. The company is laying off 27K employees but that may not be enough. Some speculate HP might be broken up into parts with buy-outs involved. This article from last May offers a good in-depth analysis of how all these problems came to pass.
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The "Microsoft" effect.
by reduz on Fri 23rd Nov 2012 16:44 UTC
reduz
Member since:
2006-02-25

This is like a trend, every company that bases their busines model exclusively or almost exclusively on complementing Microsoft products is going down, like HP, AMD, Nokia, Dell and to some extent Intel.
Others have seen the danger beforehand and attempted to diversify, like NVidia with Tegra.

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RE: The "Microsoft" effect.
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 23rd Nov 2012 16:59 in reply to "The "Microsoft" effect."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

LOL... nice way to look at it. But Nokia is kind of different from the others you mentioned; in their case, they didn't just decide to go Microsoft-only. Mr. Head Dumbass Elop made the braindead decision to practically throw everything they had out and switch to Microsoft overnight. No sane businessman with any respect for his company or even his own public image would do that. I am still shocked at such a ridiculous move.

The other companies? Well... their dependence on Microsoft is just finally beginning to catch up with them and bite them in the ass, as ironically I have seen/heard being predicted probably a decade or more ago...

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chemical_scum Member since:
2005-11-02

LOL... nice way to look at it. But Nokia is kind of different from the others you mentioned; in their case, they didn't just decide to go Microsoft-only. Mr. Head Dumbass Elop made the braindead decision to practically throw everything they had out and switch to Microsoft overnight.


Elop is not braindead, he is a deliberate wrecker sent in by MS to do the job. No OEM wanted to use Windows phone. Once Elop forces it onto Nokia all the other OEM's have to bring out a phone to compete and MS got its edge in the market. Now Nokia longer matters to them Elop can destroy it and arrange for MS to end up holding the patents. Just another MS saboteur and the Nokia board fell for it. No Elop is smart he has done his job and will be well rewarded for it. The Nokia board is braindead.

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RE[2]: The "Microsoft" effect.
by zima on Sun 25th Nov 2012 08:44 in reply to "RE: The "Microsoft" effect."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Nokia is kind of different from the others you mentioned; in their case, they didn't just decide to go Microsoft-only. Mr. Head Dumbass Elop made the braindead decision to practically throw everything they had out and switch to Microsoft overnight. No sane businessman with any respect for his company or even his own public image would do that. I am still shocked at such a ridiculous move.

Series 40 OS is almost flourishing under Elop, finally rapidly moving forward after over half a decade of total stagnation. It's even starting to be described as a smartphone platform now (arguably, if we were to use any resemblance of rigorous definition, it was always more a smartphone than the iPhone in its first year). Series 30 handsets also undergo changes, advancements.

But I guess by now I'm not shocked that many critics don't really follow what Nokia did and is doing...

(also: http://www.osnews.com/permalink?543163 )

Edited 2012-11-25 08:52 UTC

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RE: The "Microsoft" effect.
by ronaldst on Sat 24th Nov 2012 06:00 in reply to "The "Microsoft" effect."
ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

Maybe those companies can switch to Ubuntu exclusively and get that beige box market saturation back out of the gutter!

:D

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RE: The "Microsoft" effect.
by zima on Sun 25th Nov 2012 08:37 in reply to "The "Microsoft" effect."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

This is like a trend, every company that bases their busines model exclusively or almost exclusively on complementing Microsoft products is going down, like HP, AMD, Nokia, Dell and to some extent Intel.
Others have seen the danger beforehand and attempted to diversify, like NVidia with Tegra.

Versus, what, computer manufacturers that didn't ally themselves with Microsoft? They are all long DEAD (Apple also allied themselves, if more loosely; but Macs are basically standard Wintel PCs hardware-wise, very much coming from MS-curated ecosystem)

Nokia was in hot water before MS. Intel is flourishing.
OTOH... are you implying that PowerPC is doing well? Zilog? MOS & Commodore?
Most of CPU or GFX manufacturers - also gone, MS or not; killed by competition from Intel, AMD, Nvidia, ATI.

And BTW HP tried to build a major part of their business on mobile Linux OS ...tried and failed; it possibly hastened their "demise"(?).

Lenovo is doing very fine BTW.

Edited 2012-11-25 08:45 UTC

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