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RE[2]: Actual HP employee
by lucas_maximus on Sat 24th Nov 2012 21:09
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Why the hell not layoff the incompetent f--kers who made the poor acquisitions? Why the hell hire people whose only "strategy" is get rich quick through acquisitions in the first place?
Bureaucracy and Politics, I worked in two mega bureaucracies now and I know politics. The game doesn't make sense if your think everyone is working for a common goal.
They've basically got a whole small town of qualified people that they're going to throw away when in fact it could be cheaper and better in the long run to retain them and retrain them at a small cost. Think about what 29K people could think up now that they're not busy.
It depends, in large organisations there are a lot of people that tend to be almost useless, but not damaging enough to get sacked.
I suspect a good number of those people were glorified secretaries.
The place I work for, they're always encouraging employees to go "above and beyond". But then they completely decimate the headcount, leaving one person to do three people's jobs and they expect them to have time to do frivolous things.
It normally the way, we have talented programmers (a lot better than I) firefighting legacy systems all day. I am currently the sole developer that has 100% of his time working on the CMS ... go figure.
Edited 2012-11-24 21:10 UTC
RE[2]: Actual HP employee
by Delgarde on Mon 26th Nov 2012 00:59
in reply to "RE: Actual HP employee"
Why the hell not layoff the incompetent fuckers who made the poor acquisitions? Why the hell hire people whose only "strategy" is get rich quick through acquisitions in the first place?
Agreed, but getting rid of them doesn't get them out of the hole. Yes, senior management are hugely overpaid as individuals, but collectively they're small-beans compared to the cost of paying salaries for tens of thousands of workers. So even if they get rid of the bad execs (as they should), they still need to get rid of large numbers of regular folks as well.
Think about what 29K people could think up now that they're not busy.
In theory. In practice, they still need to be paid now that they're not busy. I've been in that position, and when the company isn't making money, the first priority tends to be to stop doing stuff that's losing money
RE[3]: Actual HP employee
by Soulbender on Mon 26th Nov 2012 02:05
in reply to "RE[2]: Actual HP employee"
So even if they get rid of the bad execs (as they should), they still need to get rid of large numbers of regular folks as well.
True but what I think is grating is that the management hardly ever is let go and if they do it's usually with a hefty package. It's like getting paid incredibly well to screw up and that's not how capitalism is supposed to work.
when the company isn't making money, the first priority tends to be to stop doing stuff that's losing money
Like spending all day on the golf course....
RE[2]: Actual HP employee
by Vanders on Mon 26th Nov 2012 11:16
in reply to "RE: Actual HP employee"
Why the hell not layoff the incompetent fuckers who made the poor acquisitions?
Er, they have. Shane Robison was one of the first out the door when Meg Whitman arrived. He was head of HP's Office of Strategy & Technology (OS&T), which is also gone. OS&T were responsible for almost all acquisitions within HP.
Disclaimer: I work for HP.





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Why the hell not layoff the incompetent fuckers who made the poor acquisitions? Why the hell hire people whose only "strategy" is get rich quick through acquisitions in the first place?
They've basically got a whole small town of qualified people that they're going to throw away when in fact it could be cheaper and better in the long run to retain them and retrain them at a small cost. Think about what 29K people could think up now that they're not busy.
The place I work for, they're always encouraging employees to go "above and beyond". But then they completely decimate the headcount, leaving one person to do three people's jobs and they expect them to have time to do frivolous things.