Linked by Howard Fosdick on Sat 24th Nov 2012 17:52 UTC
Editorial Do you depend on your computer for your living? If so, I'm sure you've thought long and hard about which hardware and software to use. I'd like to explain why I use generic "white boxes" running open source software. These give me a platform I rely on for 100% availability. They also provide a low-cost solution with excellent security and privacy.
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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by snorkel on Sun 25th Nov 2012 05:18 UTC in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
snorkel
Member since:
2006-03-16

To avoid lock in by M$ that's why.
.net kind of sucks for desktop applications, Lazarus and free pascal is much better in my book.
Even for web based you can do all the same stuff with Python and Cherrypy for example or flask or whatever.
The corp IT departments are full of morons...They make decisions based simply by something they read in a magazine or read online with no clue on how things really work. They love to give massive amounts of cash
to M$ and they love M$ SQL server when PostgreSQL is clearly better for just about everything, same thing with web servers, they drool over IIS, and then wonder why it was hacked into in a matter of hours....

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

.net kind of sucks for desktop applications

Really? .net apps sure beats Java apps at least. Then again, gouging your eyes out with a spork beats using Java apps on the desktop.

Lazarus and free pascal is much better in my book.


Sure, and you could do the same in asm if you wanted but that's not the point.

Even for web based you can do all the same stuff with Python and Cherrypy for example or flask or whatever.


Sure, you could do it with Perl CGI's too.

The corp IT departments are full of morons

True that

and they love M$ SQL server when PostgreSQL is clearly better for just about everything


Better is a relative term. it's not necessarily "better" if I have to spend a lot of money and time porting existing apps to it.


they drool over IIS, and then wonder why it was hacked into in a matter of hours....


It's not 2001 anymore, IIS isn't horribly vulnerable these days.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

They love to give massive amounts of cash
to MS and they love MS SQL server when PostgreSQL is clearly better for just about everything, same thing with web servers, they drool over IIS, and then wonder why it was hacked into in a matter of hours....


You start to lose credibility when you say MS ...

IIS has less vunerabilities reported recently than Apache.

Microsoft SQL Server is pretty good. The IDE for it is one of the better SQL Editors that I have used. PostgreSQL only has compatibility last time I checked with Microsoft SQL 7, not sure about Oracle with PL/SQL.

Edited 2012-11-26 12:47 UTC

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tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17


You start to lose credibility when you say MS ...


That is an arbitrary (and silly) veiled ad hominem, which also makes you lose credibility. So it's a draw in the credibility (or lack there of) department.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

"PostgreSQL only has compatibility last time I checked with Microsoft SQL 7"

Would be nice to know what you mean.

PostgreSQL is one of the most, if not the most, standards compliant database out there.

Obviously a lot of databases don't stick to the standards or they create their own (extensions) first before it is proposed as a standard.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

OMG... try selling Lazarus and Free Pascal to any large company... you'll be laughed out of the board room. You might just get away with Delphi by mentioning Borland, but even Delphi has dropped like a stone in popularity.

Disclaimer: I did just over 10 years worth pro commercial Delphi development between 1997 - 2008 for 4 different employers(Banking sector 3 years, Consultant/Trainer 2 years, Logistics Back office 2 years,Patient Transport/Security Patrolling/Auditing 3.5 years.) Delphi jobs dried up and there is no real call for it any more. We need to be realistic here.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

So what remains in the "enterprise" is Java and .Net ?

Java is they teach in school, so that is what they'll use. And .Net was made to look like Java.

I just make everything webbased and compliant with webstandards (a lot of time on the server at the company and only accessible from there).

That is how I make things platform independant. Even works on your mobile.

As the creator of Javascript said: always bet on the web.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I don't know that it's the entire IT department. Granted, the tech staff can only do what management allows and.. and there's your problem usually.

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