Linked by Howard Fosdick on Wed 28th Nov 2012 01:24 UTC
Windows The clock is ticking for XP users, with Microsoft ending support with its final security update after 11 years on April 8, 2014. Netmarketshare's desktop browser statistics show 40% of users are still using XP, totalling about 500 million users (versus Windows 7 at 45% and Vista at 6%). Gartner and Forrester analysts predict that 10% to 20% of enterprise PCs will be running XP after April 2014. Options for companies include: speed up XP conversions, sign up for Microsoft's Custom Support Program for after-retirement support, and add a supported browser to XP to replace unsupported IE8.
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RE: Oh well
by Nelson on Wed 28th Nov 2012 12:42 UTC in reply to "Oh well"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Its fine, Microsoft has already sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses in a month. (fyi Windows 7 sold 60 million in two months).

So much for the failure, or the sweeping rejection of Metro by the masses, or the year of the Desktop Linux.

There's always next year guys.

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RE[2]: Oh well
by znby on Wed 28th Nov 2012 13:04 in reply to "RE: Oh well"
znby Member since:
2012-02-03

There's lots of ways to play those numbers. 40 million licenses sold does not mean that 40 million upgrades and computers with preinstalled copies have been sold, lots of them could be still sitting on the shelf.

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RE[2]: Oh well
by darknexus on Wed 28th Nov 2012 15:09 in reply to "RE: Oh well"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Its fine, Microsoft has already sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses in a month. (fyi Windows 7 sold 60 million in two months).


And that is relevant to this article, how? We're not even talking about sales, we're talking about IT departments running outdated software. Look, I know you love Microsoft, but at least shill intelligently. A proper shill here would've been something like: "Some enterprises are already considering upgrading to Windows 8." That might even be true, though I doubt it.
XP itself isn't even the problem, it's IE6. Yes, this is a problem and no, I'm not referring to IE6's security issues which are too numerous to count. The trouble is that a huge number of in-house software has been written for it, and the IT department does not want to invest the time it would take to re-write it. The IE6/ActiveX combination is firmly entrenched in some places, and upgrading Windows is therefore not an option. Compatibility mode won't cut it, and you can't get IE6 for Windows any later than XP. Therefore, XP is likely to stay where it is. You can blame it on Microsoft, or incompetent IT managers, or stingy management. In the end, it doesn't matter who wins the blame game. The situation isn't likely to change until change is absolutely force upon them. This means, among other things, that Microsoft would have to refuse to allow after-life support of XP and IE6. Not charge them extra, or re-negotiate the contract, but outright refuse. Ending support is about the only way to force these places to upgrade, as it means they can't call someone and bitch when something doesn't work anymore. IT departments love to pass the buck whenever they can.

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RE[3]: Oh well
by Delgarde on Thu 29th Nov 2012 00:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

XP itself isn't even the problem, it's IE6. Yes, this is a problem and no, I'm not referring to IE6's security issues which are too numerous to count. The trouble is that a huge number of in-house software has been written for it, and the IT department does not want to invest the time it would take to re-write it.


It's not just the applications though. We have customers who right now, are looking at moving from IE6 to IE8 - they want us to certify that the old version of our app they're running will still work. And it will - from experience with other clients, all we need to do is do some testing, and fix a few small bugs.

But the point is that it's almost 2013, and they're finally looking at upgrading - to IE8. And the reason for that is that they're going to be upgrading their desktops to Windows 7 in the near future, and they want to certify IE8 because they can move to that on their existing XP desktops, and keep using it on 7. I'd give it another year before they ask us to certify IE9, seeing as that's obsolete now as well.

Edit: I should also note that they only moved to XP after their Windows 2000 desktops went end-of-life, and even then, it was about a year later...

Edited 2012-11-29 00:46 UTC

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RE[3]: Oh well
by Nelson on Thu 29th Nov 2012 03:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Who is we? Last I checked, I didn't reply to your comment.

My comment was in response to Lorin being a blowhard over Windows 8 and saying he's migrating a billion PCs or something away from Windows (Right, lol)

Despite all the Metro hate, the countless OSNews smear articles, the grandstanding in the comments over every little detail, there is no evidence to suggest that Windows 8 is a commercial failure anywhere NEAR the scale that some of you are delusional enough to believe is inevitable.

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RE[2]: Oh well
by Lorin on Wed 28th Nov 2012 21:46 in reply to "RE: Oh well"
Lorin Member since:
2010-04-06

Manipulated numbers, most are sold to oem and retail suppliers so most are sitting idle, Microsoft counts those as sales.

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RE[3]: Oh well
by Nelson on Thu 29th Nov 2012 03:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Manipulated numbers?

Are you kidding? They have not changed the ways numbers are reported from Windows Vista and Windows 7.

You know Microsoft is a publicly traded company, so manipulation on the scale that you're implying is illegal. It is telling that you'd suggest that there is foul play at hand. It can't possibly be that, you know, Windows 8 is the disaster that OSNews armchair CEOs predicted it would be.

Is Windows 7's marketshare manipulated numbers too? Because that's the consequence of Windows 7's licensing sales (which are reported in the same manner Windows 8's are)

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