Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Nov 2012 16:32 UTC
Gnome Not even GNOME itself could ignore the GNOME 3 criticism for much longer. "As part of the planning for the DropOrFixFallbackMode feature, we've decided that we will compile a list of supported gnome-shell extensions. This will be a small list, focused on just bringing back some central 'classic' UX elements: classic alt tab, task bar, min/max buttons, main menu. To ensure that these extensions keep working, we will release them as a tarball, just like any other module."
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they just dont get it
by TechGeek on Wed 28th Nov 2012 19:34 UTC
TechGeek
Member since:
2006-01-14

They still just don't get it. While they are caving to some pressure, they aren't really changing the core problem. That problem is that the desktop is MINE, not theirs. If I want to change the way it looks, I should be able to. I don't give a crap about their branding, or their identity, or anything else they think. They can ship whatever they want, but if I can't make it usable, I am gonna go with something else. Plus, who the heck wants to code against an arbitrarily moving target?

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v RE: they just dont get it
by Hiev on Wed 28th Nov 2012 19:48 in reply to "they just dont get it"
RE[2]: they just dont get it
by grat on Wed 28th Nov 2012 20:03 in reply to "RE: they just dont get it"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

Because the idea that I should have to learn to code to customize my desktop is mind-numbingly stupid?

The Gnome3 team is the George Lucas of desktop UI.

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RE[2]: they just dont get it
by drcoldfoot on Wed 28th Nov 2012 20:16 in reply to "RE: they just dont get it"
drcoldfoot Member since:
2006-08-25

And it's reasoning such as yours, that I believe Gnome3 seems to be such a failure. Of course the developers do the hard labor in an open source project. But without the userbase, there wouldn't be donations, nor distros and corporations that would invest in paid developers to keep the project going.

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RE[2]: they just dont get it
by TechGeek on Wed 28th Nov 2012 22:22 in reply to "RE: they just dont get it"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

That problem is that the desktop is MINE, not theirs.

Then why don't you clone the git repository and start coding your self?


We, the users and devs, did. They are called Mate and Cinnamon. This is exactly the attitude that got Gnome into their current mess, with users and devs fleeing and forking. When a single set of decisions spawns two completely separate projects, you obviously aren't listening to your users.

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RE: they just dont get it
by Morgan on Thu 29th Nov 2012 06:55 in reply to "they just dont get it"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

While I feel Hiev is being a total douche about this, he's partially right. If you don't like Gnome anymore, don't use it. Xfce is nearly at the feature and stability level Gnome 2 was a few years ago, and even KDE is becoming tolerable enough to use daily (my own opinion there, not a statement of fact).

The Gnome team seems hell bent on doing the same thing the Arch team is: Pissing off all the regular users until there's only the core development team left. Then it's their private playground to do with as they wish, the public be damned.

Maybe that's why Arch has one of the most complete and functional Gnome 3 installations out there. Perhaps the two teams can get together and circle-jerk each other into irrelevance while the rest of us move on to better desktops and distros.

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RE[2]: they just dont get it
by bouhko on Thu 29th Nov 2012 10:39 in reply to "RE: they just dont get it"
bouhko Member since:
2010-06-24

Can you elaborate on the Arch thing ? I've only used it a bit, but it seems to have a very good reputation.

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