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Windows Desktop users deserve a significant rethink of the Windows 8 gaffes and omissions for the next version of Windows, writes InfoWorld's Woody Leonhard, offering 10 must-have features for Windows 9. From a "Get out of hell" modal dialog to prevent unwanted jumping to Metro, to a Control Panel that actually controls the kinds of things you would want a Control Panel to control, it's 'due time we diehards speak out.' What's your feedback for the Windows dev team as it puts together its Windows 9 (or "Windows Blue"?) specs.
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Put the desktop back
by jefro on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 17:17 UTC
jefro
Member since:
2007-04-13

I have tried to use windows 8 but find it too fricking silly and too much time to find any useful things.

They can keep it. The only real good part of windows 7 is WMC and they don't even offer it free in W8.

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RE: Put the desktop back
by helf on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 18:58 in reply to "Put the desktop back"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

The desktop is still there. WTF is with all you people bitching? Don't like the UI formally known as Metro? THEN DON'T USE IT. I haven't even installed a replacement start button app and I've barely had any interaction with it.

As far as I have seen, most whiners about it wont take the time to either learn it or just disable it. The under the hood changes in Windows 8 are fantastic and the UI changes, other than Metro (if you dislike it), are generally fantastic.

I'll get voted down because "everyone has an opinion", but anyone that voices the same complaints that have been beat to death will get up voted. This is bloody ridiculous.

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RE[2]: Put the desktop back
by WorknMan on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 19:56 in reply to "RE: Put the desktop back"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

This. I agree that Metro is a big ass burger with a side of fries, but Windows 8 on the desktop is hands down better than Windows 7, and that's where I stay. Most of the time, I forget that Metro is even there. It's useful in some cases (for me, getting Facebook notifications and syncing with Google calendar), but completely optional if you don't want to use it.

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RE[2]: Put the desktop back
by rebus on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 20:03 in reply to "RE: Put the desktop back"
rebus Member since:
2009-10-25

Fully agreed. I've installed it a week ago, using it on 24" screen and it is basically improved Windows 7. Only time I see Metro is when starting an app - hit Windows key, hello Metro, start typing, hit enter, goodbye Metro. Time to adjust from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is 10 seconds.

Whatever is the real reason people are bitching about it so much, it escapes me.

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RE[2]: Put the desktop back
by Dave_K on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 21:50 in reply to "RE: Put the desktop back"
Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

The desktop is still there. WTF is with all you people bitching? Don't like the UI formally known as Metro? THEN DON'T USE IT.


That's reasonable advice right now. It'll stop being so reasonable if/when software starts to be released that's Metro/Modern only.

My problem with Windows 8 is that it treats the desktop as a compatibility layer, with Metro crippleware the primary interface. While you can work around that right now, I think that Microsoft are making it pretty clear that they see Metro as the future of Windows, and the desktop as a niche/legacy component. I can see Metro becoming much harder to completely avoid as time goes on.

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RE[2]: Put the desktop back
by WereCatf on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 23:49 in reply to "RE: Put the desktop back"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

The desktop is still there. WTF is with all you people bitching? Don't like the UI formally known as Metro? THEN DON'T USE IT. I haven't even installed a replacement start button app and I've barely had any interaction with it.


As I've stated in some other story recently, I installed Windows 8 on my laptop, then I proceeded to install Start8, disabled Metro Start screen, disabled all the hot corners and set my PC to boot to desktop; this way Windows 8 isn't really much different from Windows 7, it's just got a different-looking theme. I do not see any real disadvantages to Windows 8 if used that way, but then again, I see no advantages, either.

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RE[2]: Put the desktop back
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 4th Dec 2012 04:57 in reply to "RE: Put the desktop back"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

The desktop is still there. WTF is with all you people bitching? Don't like the UI formally known as Metro? THEN DON'T USE IT. I haven't even installed a replacement start button app and I've barely had any interaction with it.

As far as I have seen, most whiners about it wont take the time to either learn it or just disable it. The under the hood changes in Windows 8 are fantastic and the UI changes, other than Metro (if you dislike it), are generally fantastic.

That's kind of hard to do when, you know... you're dumped right into the "Start screen" which--make no mistake--is a part of Metro. Want to run a desktop application without touching Metro? Tough--unless you litter your desktop and taskbar with icons, you have to deal with the Metro-ized Start menu replacement for that, too. Oh, and that annoying thing that always needlessly pops up on the right side of the screen when you simply want to access an icon in the system tray or close a window that's on the right side of the screen? Well, that's part of Metro too, and you'll need to deal with it eventually if you ever plan on rebooting or shutting down your machine without reaching for the power button or the power cable.

The simple fact is, Microsoft has hardwired Metro into Windows 8 in such a way that it is impossible to completely disable or bypass it.

Edited 2012-12-04 05:01 UTC

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RE: Put the desktop back
by phoenix on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 19:08 in reply to "Put the desktop back"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

If you mean Windows Media Center, it's a free download for Windows 8 until January 2013. There's an MS website you go to to get a product key for free, which can be used anytime in the future to install WMC on Win8.

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RE[2]: Put the desktop back
by helf on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 20:05 in reply to "RE: Put the desktop back"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

oh thanks, I didn't know about this! ;)

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RE: Put the desktop back
by lucas_maximus on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 20:24 in reply to "Put the desktop back"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

This again, really.

WMC is free at the moment.

Edited 2012-12-03 20:25 UTC

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