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Windows Desktop users deserve a significant rethink of the Windows 8 gaffes and omissions for the next version of Windows, writes InfoWorld's Woody Leonhard, offering 10 must-have features for Windows 9. From a "Get out of hell" modal dialog to prevent unwanted jumping to Metro, to a Control Panel that actually controls the kinds of things you would want a Control Panel to control, it's 'due time we diehards speak out.' What's your feedback for the Windows dev team as it puts together its Windows 9 (or "Windows Blue"?) specs.
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RE[7]: Put the desktop back
by lucas_maximus on Tue 4th Dec 2012 19:01 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Put the desktop back"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Just like Microsoft stubbornly insisted on and ultimately decided to leave out basic, expected functionality for desktop users? It goes both ways.


Sorry MacOSX doesn't have a start menu and mac users just do fine.

The start menu really isn't expected functionality. Lets ignore the start screen works exactly the same via keyboard as the old start menu just for arguments sake.

OSX does not have a "Start Menu" and manages just fine ... in fact Windows 8 I would argue is more like MacOSX than Win 7 (even with the Dock/Taskbar hybrid).

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Not everyone buys, uses or even cares about a Mac. And if I didn't buy a Mac, the last thing I would want is Mac behavior. That Mac minority made a conscious decision to have to deal with that dock and Apple's walled garden along with everything that comes with it; they can have it. Windows users have come to expect a proper application menu.

To remove it practically overnight without having a grace period of even one release having it as an option is just wrong... especially when it is *your* OS that will end up being on the vast majority of new computers sold within only the first month or two of its release. It just reeks of pure marketing and arrogance in thinking they know better than what the customer/user wants.

All monitors haven't just magically turned into expensive touchscreens overnight, so to replace the traditional menu system with one designed for portable touchscreen units is just a pathetic attempt to push more Windows OSes in areas where Android and iOS mops the floor with them. All while having absolutely no respect for the majority of Windows users (keyboard and mouse/trackpad) in the first place.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Not everyone buys, uses or even cares about a Mac. And if I didn't buy a Mac, the last thing I would want is Mac behavior. That Mac minority made a conscious decision to have to deal with that dock and Apple's walled garden along with everything that comes with it; they can have it.


Windows 7 taskbar is a hybrid of the dock + the taskbar and that is one example. Like it or not Windows 7 is influenced by how a mac works ... Windows itself was created as a direct competitor to Macintosh.

So you really can't escape it.

Windows users have come to expect a proper application menu.


I rarely used it since XP, it isn't that important to Windows as you like to think.

To remove it practically overnight without having a grace period of even one release having it as an option is just wrong... especially when it is *your* OS that will end up being on the vast majority of new computers sold within only the first month or two of its release. It just reeks of pure marketing and arrogance in thinking they know better than what the customer/user wants.


Windows isn't the OS for you then. If you want to be able to customize everything easily move to *nix.

All monitors haven't just magically turned into expensive touchscreens overnight, so to replace the traditional menu system with one designed for portable touchscreen units is just a pathetic attempt to push more Windows OSes in areas where Android and iOS mops the floor with them. All while having absolutely no respect for the majority of Windows users (keyboard and mouse/trackpad) in the first place.


Funny I don't find any problems using it on dual 1680x1050 screens.

Try again.

Edited 2012-12-04 21:28 UTC

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