Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 6th Dec 2012 05:26 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes With computers now shipping with UEFI Secure Boot enabled, users of any OS other than Windows 8 will want to know how to circumvent it. Jesse Smith of DistroWatch tells how he did it here. The Linux Foundation describes its approach here. If you want to boot an OS other than Windows 8, you'll want to figure this out before you buy that new computer.
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I did my homework
by OSGuy on Thu 6th Dec 2012 08:32 UTC
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2006-01-01

I am getting a new laptop and of course comes with Windows 8 which I will either W7nize it or install Windows 7 64-bit. I already purchased W7 64-bit a few months ago. Anyway, before I picked the laptop, I emailed the manufacturer sales team asking if the laptop comes with TMP and if yes, I asked if it can be disabled. I was told the laptop is using UEFI but there is no TPM module installed. So this means, it has no secure boot. However it does have UEFI. Any gotchas? I hope not.

Edited 2012-12-06 08:34 UTC

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RE: I did my homework
by NuxRo on Thu 6th Dec 2012 08:58 in reply to "I did my homework"
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2010-09-25

Why not buy one without Windows?

http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/177429/

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RE[2]: I did my homework
by Coxy on Thu 6th Dec 2012 12:00 in reply to "RE: I did my homework"
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2006-07-01

Because they are crap for the price, or they only come with US keyboards.

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RE: I did my homework
by Kivada on Thu 6th Dec 2012 09:38 in reply to "I did my homework"
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2010-07-07

Zareason, System76, Ohava and Think Penguin all sell machines where the ONLY preinstalled option is Linux. My guess is that they'll have you covered on circumventing UEFI.

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RE[2]: I did my homework
by moondevil on Thu 6th Dec 2012 13:02 in reply to "RE: I did my homework"
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2005-07-08

They are not available everywhere though.

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RE: I did my homework
by ssokolow on Thu 6th Dec 2012 18:14 in reply to "I did my homework"
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2010-01-21

I was told the laptop is using UEFI but there is no TPM module installed. So this means, it has no secure boot. However it does have UEFI. Any gotchas? I hope not.


Secure Boot doesn't require a TPM because they're apparently too expensive to have while keeping mainstream motherboards competitive on price.

I can't remember where I learned that, but it might have been this talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U

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RE: I did my homework
by Lennie on Thu 6th Dec 2012 23:44 in reply to "I did my homework"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Actually, that is not true.

They can still implement UEFI without a TPM. It will just be a lot easier to break for 'hackers'. But that doesn't mean easy to circumvent for consumers.

But what you should be asking is: can I provide my own keys or if that isn't possible: at least disable it.

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