Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Dec 2012 17:01 UTC
Apple So, Apple is serious about this thing. Tim Cook has said in an interview the company plans to manufacture one line of Macs in the US, starting next year. Coincidentally (or not?), Foxconn has just announced it plans to expand its production facilities... Into the United States. There's no indication as of yet that the two are linked, but the coincidence is at least interesting.
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Good
by Alfman on Thu 6th Dec 2012 18:53 UTC
Alfman
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2011-01-28

Someone's finally putting all the laid off employees to good use! With Apple's margins, they should be able to afford it without raising prices. We'll see though.


That said, did it bother anyone else that in the interview he said the problem with domestic manufacturing isn't about costs, but lack of skills? Manufacturing companies have been laying off the skilled domestic workforce for years in favor of much cheaper labor.

Edited 2012-12-06 18:54 UTC

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RE: Good
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 6th Dec 2012 20:08 in reply to "Good"
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2006-07-14

That said, did it bother anyone else that in the interview he said the problem with domestic manufacturing isn't about costs, but lack of skills? Manufacturing companies have been laying off the skilled domestic workforce for years in favor of much cheaper labor.


The layoffs of skilled labor have been going on for years. I'm not sure where they have gone to, but there is a definite lack of them. I'm from a rust belt city and can attest there are job openings for skilled labor: welders, cnc machinists,ect. I think the problem is that very few younger employees wanted to get the skills during the long layoff periods. It didn't look too promising of a career choice. My high school had a work study program where kids could intern at a local factory and learn the skills they needed and start working as a full time employee the day after they graduated. Those programs don't exist anymore.

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RE[2]: Good
by Alfman on Thu 6th Dec 2012 21:07 in reply to "RE: Good"
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2011-01-28

Bill_Shooter_of_Bul,

Yea, I think it's a bit cyclic. Sponsored training is a relic of corporate DNA, the burden has been shifted to candidates as a pre-qualification for landing a job. It hasn't made sense to get trained for manufacturing skills amid the domestic manufacturing downsizes and high risks for being laid off. The remaining workforce is aging and nobody's willing to pay for training new local replacements.

I'm convinced that if you raise the wages and bring back corporate training, then more skilled workers will start to come out of the woodwork. But apparently that's alot to ask when the cost differences between local and offshore labor is still so great. Most multinational corporations will need some additional justification.

Edit: I'm anxious to see what apple does and how good of a model it can be for others. Of course they're particularly wealthy, but with a little luck maybe it can convince others to bring back manufacturing?

I feel terrible when 100% of the stuff in my office is made elsewhere. Not a damn thing gets made here. That's not entirely true, when I last surveyed the pencils were from USA.

Edited 2012-12-06 21:17 UTC

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RE: Good
by sdeber on Mon 10th Dec 2012 10:06 in reply to "Good"
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2005-07-06

I don't think skills are the key factor to this. It does not need some hard-to-learn skills to manufacture products like Iphone, Ipad, etc. In fact, as far as I know, the training cycle for these Chinese workers is less than 4 weeks, and many of them just keep jumping from one job to another. Rarely someone treat this kind of job as a long term career. The key factor has always been the cost.

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