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OSNews, Generic OSes With computers now shipping with UEFI Secure Boot enabled, users of any OS other than Windows 8 will want to know how to circumvent it. Jesse Smith of DistroWatch tells how he did it here. The Linux Foundation describes its approach here. If you want to boot an OS other than Windows 8, you'll want to figure this out before you buy that new computer.
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RE[7]: I did my homework
by Alfman on Tue 11th Dec 2012 04:24 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: I did my homework"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

zima,

You keep mentioning this foreign example as though it's proof that the situation is equal everywhere, but it is not. The few niche vendors who specialise in linux can charge more than their hardware is worth because big venders with scales of economy hardly ever bother selling linux or no-OS machines.

I understand you are tired of listening to us whine about paying the ms tax, but you should still recognise that it is a legitimate complaint and isn't something we're just making up.

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RE[8]: I did my homework
by zima on Tue 11th Dec 2012 13:23 in reply to "RE[7]: I did my homework"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Not as proof... but see, the thing is - many people in PL also still whine about it, despite the options being clearly available. Are you sure they are unavailable to you? (it would be a bit weird if those large PC manufacturers were doing this only for PL ...the machines are the same, with standard US keyboard layout BTW, that's what PL uses physically; also, at the very least - they are basically available, via my marketplace, to ~neighbouring EU residents)

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RE[9]: I did my homework
by Alfman on Tue 11th Dec 2012 15:33 in reply to "RE[8]: I did my homework"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

zima,

For one thing, linux probably enjoys a greater market share in Europe than North America (1.14 vs 0.72).

http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/05/12/the-top-20-strongholds-for-desk...

http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/08/21/linux-popularity-across-the-glo...

So, if there were a linear relationship between market share and venders, we'd expect to see 60% more linux vendors in europe. However in reality it's probably more of a power distribution where 99% of venders service the top 90% of the market (numbers are just illustrative). So the linux market may just not have the market share needed to spark interest in any significant US vendors.

The power distribution is often the result of a cyclic pattern: the US linux market share is small because there are so few vendors because the linux market share is small, etc. The difference between the US and Europe may have been the lack of governance in the US stemming back to the days when MS was committing flagrant anti-trust behaviours in those years before the feds stepped in. Or it may be as simple as linux having had a head start in europe because of it's European roots. Or maybe microsoft has more government ties in the US, with rippling effects down to contractors and the private sector.

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