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Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Perhaps most likely to raise some eyebrows is that Ubuntu 13.04 will let users purchase music or apps directly from the desktop Dash, without having to open a browser or a separate client." That's going to go down well.
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Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Wed 12th Dec 2012 01:20 UTC
Luminair
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2007-03-30

I've seen hardcore ubuntu fans complain that ubuntu 12.1 sucks compared to 12. and it has been like this for years. I dont remember the last time someone said an ubuntu release was a big improvement. so every indication I've seen says this ship is sinking

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by Casey99 on Wed 12th Dec 2012 01:27 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
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2011-07-14

The last release I saw where people said improvements where made was 10.04. It's been downhill ever since.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by zima on Mon 17th Dec 2012 13:52 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
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RE: Comment by Luminair
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 12th Dec 2012 02:11 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
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2006-12-05

8.04 was Ubuntu's best release as far as I'm concerned, and IMO the first (only?) release to actually feel mature. Before that, it always had a "getting there... not quite ready yet" feeling to it. 8.10 could have been decent, but I recall it being extremely buggy and unstable. After 8.10, Ubuntu started going off the deep end in every way Canonical could possibly conceive; Ubuntu has effectively been dead to me ever since.

Meanwhile, as Canonical continues digging Ubuntu's grave, Linux Mint has been "Ubuntu Done Right" for a while now, and their parent, Debian--already good before--continues to get even better.

It's funny, with Ubuntu destroying themselves, virtually *all* of the other distributions (ie. Ubuntu's competition) look even better without having to do any extra work on their own part. Yet, unlike Ubuntu which continues to get worse, most of the rest are improving as usual. Good thing there's choice.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by zima on Mon 17th Dec 2012 14:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

as Canonical continues digging Ubuntu's grave, Linux Mint has been "Ubuntu Done Right" for a while now, and their parent, Debian--already good before--continues to get even better.
It's funny, with Ubuntu destroying themselves, virtually *all* of the other distributions (ie. Ubuntu's competition) look even better without having to do any extra work on their own part. Yet, unlike Ubuntu which continues to get worse, most of the rest are improving as usual.

It's funny, some loud(ish) pundits on the web like to see it that^ way, but Ubuntu is likely the only really growing desktop distro... (compare http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2012-10/SquidRepor... with http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2011-10/SquidRepor... - it's also funny what's happening to Mint or Debian share)

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by Soulbender on Wed 12th Dec 2012 02:57 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
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2005-08-18

I've seen hardcore ubuntu fans complain that ubuntu 12.1 sucks compared to 12


You mean 12.10 compared to 12.04, right?

I dont remember the last time someone said an ubuntu release was a big improvement.


The last releases have all been big improvements, Unity's gotten better, the Software Center has gotten better, Server is rock solid etc etc.
There, now someone has said it.

Edited 2012-12-12 02:58 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 12th Dec 2012 04:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
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2006-12-05

It's amazing that anyone would willingly stick around for the rocky road Canonical is taking its Ubuntu users for a ride on.

That said, it's not a surprise that something that was initially released as an incomplete piece of crap that could only get less crappy (Unity) is actually supposedly being improved.

I heard Fedora comes with Unity; it'll be amusing (yet not surprising) if they don't include all these layers of spyware that Canonical is integrating into Unity.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by Soulbender on Wed 12th Dec 2012 07:03 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Ermagherd Urbuntru", better down vote anyone who likes it.
Classy.

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by zima on Sun 16th Dec 2012 14:16 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I've seen hardcore ubuntu fans complain that ubuntu 12.1 sucks compared to 12. and it has been like this for years. I dont remember the last time someone said an ubuntu release was a big improvement. so every indication I've seen says this ship is sinking

"hardcore ubuntu fans" don't mean much, beyond influencing (almost meaningless) Distrowatch stats.

Ubuntu is likely the only desktop distro really growing, over the last few years (compare http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2012-10/SquidRepor... with http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2011-10/SquidRepor... )

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