Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Dec 2012 23:09 UTC
Windows So, last night, Windows Phone 8 got its first update - specifically for the HTC 8X. In this day and age, where iOS is the gold standard and shows the industry how it ought to be done, and Android is the exact opposite, Windows Phone 7 was a bit of an in-between - every phone got every update, but the staggered rollout was slow and frustrating, often due to carrier meddling. How will Windows Phone 8 fare?
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Nexus Line
by Bink on Wed 12th Dec 2012 06:53 UTC
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2006-02-19

I own an unlocked Nexus device and get my updates straight from Google with more frequent updates than IOS—and I recommend all Android users do the same. That said, I do find it quite humorous that a modern phone, like Windows Phone 8, is only now able to maintain a Wi-Fi connection while the phone is locked.

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RE: Nexus Line
by leos on Wed 12th Dec 2012 07:28 in reply to "Nexus Line"
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2005-09-21

I own an unlocked Nexus device and get my updates straight from Google with more frequent updates than IOS—and I recommend all Android users do the same. That said, I do find it quite humorous that a modern phone, like Windows Phone 8, is only now able to maintain a Wi-Fi connection while the phone is locked.


Yep. If I ever buy an Android device it will be from Google. I've got exactly zero interest in any of the other handsets that mess around with the software and screw everyone on updates. Completely inexcusable.
Google needs to offer a high quality phone though. The nexus 4 seems good for the low end, but there is no high end option that supports LTE (and the nexus 4 seems to have some quality issues: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39936 )

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RE: Nexus Line
by Nelson on Wed 12th Dec 2012 08:02 in reply to "Nexus Line"
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2005-11-29

That's not always true. People have waited months, despite owning a Nexus device, to have the latest version of Android pushed down to them. The fairy tale, because that's what it really is, a fairytale, that Nexus devices get updates on day #1 is getting old.

To contrast, when Windows Phone 7.5 came out, it rolled out to every device, across every carrier, in every country. Without a hitch.

Very little apps are impacted by the WiFi fix, because very little apps run under lockscreen, since 7.5 it hasn't been recommended to run under Lock screen. Instead, you just support Fast App Switching and Fast App Resume and call it a day.

About the only apps that I can see having a meaningful impact by this are apps that 1) Transmit data in the background like an Audio Streaming app, or 2) Apps that would like a persistent transport connection to be maintained.

Neither are very common. This is a low impact change, and it's opt-in, so it's not even default behavior. Its more to appease some power users.

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RE[2]: Nexus Line
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 12th Dec 2012 08:43 in reply to "RE: Nexus Line"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

To contrast, when Windows Phone 7.5 came out, it rolled out to every device, across every carrier, in every country. Without a hitch.


Speaking of fairtytales. You clearly weren't there during the rollout. It took months and months and months, with bugs and bricked devices. It wasn't until TWO WEEKS AGO that the Focus 2 on some carrier got it.

Two weeks ago.

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RE[2]: Nexus Line
by darknexus on Wed 12th Dec 2012 08:44 in reply to "RE: Nexus Line"
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2008-07-15

To contrast, when Windows Phone 7.5 came out, it rolled out to every device, across every carrier, in every country. Without a hitch.


Yes, and then, when Windows 8 came out (not even a year after Windows Phone 7.5) every single consumer up to that point got screwed out of any future updates to those handsets, ever. Great comparison there. Try a little harder next time, okay?

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RE[2]: Nexus Line
by Morgan on Wed 12th Dec 2012 11:41 in reply to "RE: Nexus Line"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

The fairy tale, because that's what it really is, a fairytale, that Nexus devices get updates on day #1 is getting old.


Fairy tale, huh? From Wikipedia (and common knowledge to Nexus owners, of course), emphasis mine:

"On June 27, 2012 at the Google I/O conference, it was announced that the Nexus S would be one of the first devices to receive an upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, along with the Motorola Xoom and Galaxy Nexus, began on July 26, 2012."

I finally gave up waiting for WP7.8 and went back to my Nexus S 4G. This is a phone that is well over a year old and yet received the Jelly Bean update soon after it was gold. My best friend's HTC One X, on the other hand, is still waiting several months later.

While my Nexus won't be getting 4.2 officially, my contract runs out right around the time the Galaxy Note 2 will likely drop in price. That device is already my chosen upgrade path so I'm set for a couple of years yet. And if I do want to get a taste of 4.2, there's always CyanogenMod. I'm also going to hang on to the phone to play around with Firefox OS builds.

As much as I enjoyed using Windows Phone, between the lack of updates and fixes for my old phone and Sprint's flippant attitude towards the platform, I had no choice but to leave it behind for the foreseeable future.

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RE[2]: Nexus Line
by pos3 on Wed 12th Dec 2012 13:24 in reply to "RE: Nexus Line"
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2010-06-25

Got nexus 7 recently. Few reboots later running latest version within hours.

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RE[2]: Nexus Line
by aliquis on Wed 12th Dec 2012 18:12 in reply to "RE: Nexus Line"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

Not sure if a joke or serious.

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