Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Dec 2012 23:12 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Perhaps most likely to raise some eyebrows is that Ubuntu 13.04 will let users purchase music or apps directly from the desktop Dash, without having to open a browser or a separate client." That's going to go down well.
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RE: All who bash Ubuntu...
by r_a_trip on Wed 12th Dec 2012 14:21 UTC in reply to "All who bash Ubuntu..."
r_a_trip
Member since:
2005-07-06

No, just no.

We (people who care and see this as the wrong move) won't stop criticizing harebrained ideas. Even if some computer users, to stupid to know better, go ooh and aah over an advertisement capable of launching programs, it doesn't mean that people, who know better than to infect computers with shady adware, shouldn't try and protect the less smart from themselves.

A "start menu" is not a webshop. Canonical shouldn't be busy to muddle these two concepts together, so they can mooch off a bit of affiliate revenue. Canonical needs to start to sell real products (where are the dedicated Ubuntu branded phones, tablets and laptops?) and not these parasitic manoeuvres to become an unnecessary middle man. Canonical doesn't add anything substantial to online shopping by pulling it into their "start menu".

Don't try to counter with "convenience". Promoting brainrot by allowing people to stop thinking is not innovation, it is insanity.

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RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by WereCatf on Wed 12th Dec 2012 14:35 in reply to "RE: All who bash Ubuntu..."
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2006-02-15

Even if some computer users, to stupid to know better, go ooh and aah over an advertisement capable of launching programs, it doesn't mean that people, who know better than to infect computers with shady adware, shouldn't try and protect the less smart from themselves.


Watch now, you're entering quite a slippery slope. I know quite a few dictators using the same line of logics..

Don't try to counter with "convenience". Promoting brainrot by allowing people to stop thinking is not innovation, it is insanity.


Let's remove cars, they exist only for convenience and promote bad health. Let's remove bikes, too, for the same reason. Let's remove calculators, they also exist for convenience and promote brainrot.

I wonder...

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RE[3]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by r_a_trip on Wed 12th Dec 2012 16:02 in reply to "RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu..."
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

You forget that this is not Canonical helping users. This is Canonical trying to make "consumerism" a daily part of the operating system, in the hope to get their fingers into the wallets of impulsive folks.

They could opt to do some real business, but wedging themselves as an unnecessary middle man between people and real online shops is easier.

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RE[3]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by zima on Sun 16th Dec 2012 14:06 in reply to "RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Let's remove cars, they exist only for convenience and promote bad health. Let's remove bikes, too, for the same reason.

Bikes, bad health? ;p

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RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by Gestahlt on Wed 12th Dec 2012 15:19 in reply to "RE: All who bash Ubuntu..."
Gestahlt Member since:
2011-10-17

This has nothing to do with convienience and muddling you fool. CanĀ“t you read or just like to see your words?

I have no issues with criticism at all. In fact, i hate also this kind of promotion. But it is a common practice those days to earn your money by advertisements.

But:
You criticize Canonical for effort they paid in advance. They are TRYING to get money out of it, they are not forcing it on you (well.. okay this we can argue about. But my point here is: you CAN remove it).
All i see here is whining and bickering without thinking for their achievements and work.

Its not like they turned into Darth Vader now if you get my point.

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RE[3]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by r_a_trip on Wed 12th Dec 2012 16:07 in reply to "RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu..."
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

The way they go about getting money now is sleazy. They better drum up some legitimate business or slip further into irrelevance.

I criticize because I still care. Once I go quiet, it is Canonical who?

One more thing:
But it is a common practice those days to earn your money by advertisements.

Yeah, that everybody is doing it (or trying to), doesn't make it an ok thing to do.

Edited 2012-12-12 16:11 UTC

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RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by Soulbender on Sat 15th Dec 2012 05:32 in reply to "RE: All who bash Ubuntu..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Even if some computer users, to stupid to know better, go ooh and aah over an advertisement capable of launching program


Oh praise be God, you're here to save me from the evils of Ubuntu. WTF?

A "start menu" is not a webshop.

Why not? Because you say so? What does it matter?

(where are the dedicated Ubuntu branded phones, tablets and laptops?)


So re-branding existing hardware and selling that, probably with a markup, is ok....

Promoting brainrot by allowing people to stop thinking is not innovation, it is insanity.


Exactly how does being able to purchase things you want from the start menu equals brain rot?
Would it be ok Ubuntu sold only their own hardware in the start menu?

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RE[2]: All who bash Ubuntu...
by zima on Sun 16th Dec 2012 14:04 in reply to "RE: All who bash Ubuntu..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Don't try to counter with "convenience". Promoting brainrot by allowing people to stop thinking is not innovation, it is insanity.

Though that's how progress generally works - devising new types of prostheses for our minds (books instead of memorising everything; or... computers - that word meant "human who computes" not a long time ago)

Edited 2012-12-16 14:04 UTC

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