Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Dec 2012 22:03 UTC
Google A change to anything related to Google Search - the product so many of us rely on - is never going to go by unnotoced. This time around, Google has altered Image Search for US users to alter the way it handles that ever so important aspect of the web - adult content.
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Comment by Zaitch
by Zaitch on Wed 12th Dec 2012 23:02 UTC
Zaitch
Member since:
2007-11-23

I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.

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RE: Comment by Zaitch
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 12th Dec 2012 23:03 in reply to "Comment by Zaitch"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.


Point stands. I don't care if my kid finds pictures of naked men or women. Big whoop.

I find violence a far bigger issue.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by BeamishBoy on Wed 12th Dec 2012 23:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
BeamishBoy Member since:
2010-10-27

Point stands. I don't care if my kid finds pictures of naked men or women. Big whoop.

I find violence a far bigger issue.


Then presumably you should be giving a cautious welcome to the updated image search. It's trivially easy to find content that qualifies as both pornographic *and* graphically violent.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by ricegf on Thu 13th Dec 2012 05:14 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

If the worst you find on the Internet with SafeSearch off are merely unclothed people, you're running really boring searches. :-)

In any event, Google's decision strikes me as more of a business decision that censorship. People vote with their feet more than their ballots; I presume Google is responding to their market. If not, they'll be irrelevant soon anyway. Or should be.

Just curious (and I don't intend to be passive/aggressive here): As I don't expect the Dutch to adjust to American norms, why do you seem to expect Americans to adjust to yours? Perhaps Europeans should rally behind a Eurocentric search engine that better fits your culture(s) instead of trying to tailor an American company toward that end?

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by Nelson on Thu 13th Dec 2012 06:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

It's down to a difference in culture. Sex, nudity, pornography, etc. is still pretty taboo in some of the less progressive regions of the United States.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by Gone fishing on Thu 13th Dec 2012 06:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

I don't care if my kid finds pictures of naked men or women. Big whoop.


My attitude is with my children I don't use any net censor, they need to deal with the world as it is. We've discussed the internet and pornography, if it’s a problem we will discuss it again. However, as an educator I have had to deal with both parents and students where pornography has been a problem. Arguably pornography is addictive, maybe and often is degrading, misogynistic, depicts sexual violence, dangerous and / or inappropriate sexual activity.

To equate pornography to pictures of naked men or women is disingenuous

Edited 2012-12-13 06:44 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by siraf72 on Fri 14th Dec 2012 14:50 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
siraf72 Member since:
2006-02-22

I have absolutely no doubt what so ever that you will change your position once you do have kids. Hypothetical kids and real ones have little in common.

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RE: Comment by Zaitch
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 12th Dec 2012 23:49 in reply to "Comment by Zaitch"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.

Are you saying that just because you are incapable of "protecting" your own children from viewing whatever you personally deem as "inappropriate" for your kids, that everyone else should be penalized as well? How about people keep their own religious and personal philosophies to themselves and quit making the world a worse place for everyone else?

If someone is not willing or even capable of accomplishing the basic tasks associated with being a parent themselves, then maybe--just maybe--they shouldn't have any kids to begin with? Set a good example by keeping your damn pants zipped unless you're alone in the bathroom taking a piss or something (or at least wearing a rubber), unless you choose to be responsible for watching over your own kids.

Edited 2012-12-12 23:54 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by Zaitch on Thu 13th Dec 2012 17:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
Zaitch Member since:
2007-11-23

"I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.

Are you saying that just because you are incapable of "protecting" your own children from viewing whatever you personally deem as "inappropriate" for your kids, that everyone else should be penalized as well? How about people keep their own religious and personal philosophies to themselves and quit making the world a worse place for everyone else?

If someone is not willing or even capable of accomplishing the basic tasks associated with being a parent themselves, then maybe--just maybe--they shouldn't have any kids to begin with? Set a good example by keeping your damn pants zipped unless you're alone in the bathroom taking a piss or something (or at least wearing a rubber), unless you choose to be responsible for watching over your own kids.
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Congratulations, you've taken a single line throwaway generalised point and painted an entire lifestory for me. Well done. And I'm feeding the troll replying. Well done me too.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by johjeff on Fri 14th Dec 2012 00:16 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
johjeff Member since:
2007-11-06

Probably for the same reason you don't keep your personal philosophies to yourself. As for protecting children, it is NOT POSSIBLE to be with them all the time. Besides, this policy does not PREVENT anyone for finding whatever they want. It just makes it less likely that people who are not interested in the stuff YOU deem acceptable will stumble across it accidentally.

Obviously you are a pre-pubescent teen, since most adults can carry on a conversation or even a debate without using profanity as if that magically makes your point for you. I certainly hope you take your own advice and choose not to reproduce when you grow up. We have enough self-aggrandizing fools running around the world.

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RE: Comment by Zaitch
by fmaxwell on Fri 14th Dec 2012 18:19 in reply to "Comment by Zaitch"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.


I'm 51 years old and have chosen to not have children. So why should your decision to let your children 'poke around on the computer' affect me? The Internet was not created as an automated babysitter. You would not let your kids 'poke around' an unsorted warehouse of magazines, some of which contain sexual images, so why would you let your child 'poke around' on the Internet?

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by Hiev on Fri 14th Dec 2012 18:35 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

I'm 51 years old and have chosen to not have children

Lets, see, you have no children, for whatever reason, yet you try to tell those who have children how to edutate them.

The Internet was not created as an automated babysitter

It wasn't created exclusively for porn eather, so? what's your point.

You would not let your kids 'poke around' an unsorted warehouse of magazines

I don't

so why would you let your child 'poke around' on the Internet?

Because the internet is not excusive for porn, is for information and education, but, nobody can't avoid the improper use of it, common sense, have you hear of it?

Edited 2012-12-14 18:35 UTC

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