Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Dec 2012 22:03 UTC
Google A change to anything related to Google Search - the product so many of us rely on - is never going to go by unnotoced. This time around, Google has altered Image Search for US users to alter the way it handles that ever so important aspect of the web - adult content.
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RE: Comment by Zaitch
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 12th Dec 2012 23:49 UTC in reply to "Comment by Zaitch"
UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.

Are you saying that just because you are incapable of "protecting" your own children from viewing whatever you personally deem as "inappropriate" for your kids, that everyone else should be penalized as well? How about people keep their own religious and personal philosophies to themselves and quit making the world a worse place for everyone else?

If someone is not willing or even capable of accomplishing the basic tasks associated with being a parent themselves, then maybe--just maybe--they shouldn't have any kids to begin with? Set a good example by keeping your damn pants zipped unless you're alone in the bathroom taking a piss or something (or at least wearing a rubber), unless you choose to be responsible for watching over your own kids.

Edited 2012-12-12 23:54 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by Zaitch on Thu 13th Dec 2012 17:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
Zaitch Member since:
2007-11-23

"I am sympathetic with the views expressed but wait till you have your own young kids poking about on the computer and your perspective changes a bit.

Are you saying that just because you are incapable of "protecting" your own children from viewing whatever you personally deem as "inappropriate" for your kids, that everyone else should be penalized as well? How about people keep their own religious and personal philosophies to themselves and quit making the world a worse place for everyone else?

If someone is not willing or even capable of accomplishing the basic tasks associated with being a parent themselves, then maybe--just maybe--they shouldn't have any kids to begin with? Set a good example by keeping your damn pants zipped unless you're alone in the bathroom taking a piss or something (or at least wearing a rubber), unless you choose to be responsible for watching over your own kids.
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Congratulations, you've taken a single line throwaway generalised point and painted an entire lifestory for me. Well done. And I'm feeding the troll replying. Well done me too.

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RE[3]: Comment by Zaitch
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 13th Dec 2012 21:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Elaborate, then? Your post seemed pretty clear to me, even with only one sentence.

By your comment, it certainly appeared that you were relieved (glad?) that Google is starting to more aggressively take over some of the your basic responsibilities of deciding what your kids see to make your life easier--which hints that you'd rather not deal with that responsibility if you don't have to. The simple fact is, if a person can't or doesn't want to be in control what their kids do, then maybe they should reconsider having any in the first place have any. Sorry, truth hurts, but it's common sense.

There are much better ways to accomplish what you desire without neutering an entire search engine and butchering everyone else's experience. See: http://www.opendns.com/. That's just one effective example that can filter your entire Internet service at the router level, which uses DNS to block entire categories of sites.

Edited 2012-12-13 21:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Zaitch
by fmaxwell on Sat 15th Dec 2012 04:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

Congratulations, you've taken a single line throwaway generalised point and painted an entire lifestory for me. Well done. And I'm feeding the troll replying. Well done me too.

He did a good job of selecting a quote that summarized your position and in refuting that position. Your sarcastic reply added nothing to the discussion.

Your argument boils down to believing that millions of adults should be inconvenienced in order to reduce the amount of pornography your child stumbles across while operating a computer unsupervised.

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RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch
by johjeff on Fri 14th Dec 2012 00:16 in reply to "RE: Comment by Zaitch"
johjeff Member since:
2007-11-06

Probably for the same reason you don't keep your personal philosophies to yourself. As for protecting children, it is NOT POSSIBLE to be with them all the time. Besides, this policy does not PREVENT anyone for finding whatever they want. It just makes it less likely that people who are not interested in the stuff YOU deem acceptable will stumble across it accidentally.

Obviously you are a pre-pubescent teen, since most adults can carry on a conversation or even a debate without using profanity as if that magically makes your point for you. I certainly hope you take your own advice and choose not to reproduce when you grow up. We have enough self-aggrandizing fools running around the world.

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RE[3]: Comment by Zaitch
by WereCatf on Fri 14th Dec 2012 06:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Zaitch"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

In general I think filtering hardcore porn from the search results is an okay idea and it's not necessarily healthy for children to be exposed to such, but I don't agree with the method Google went for here; Safe Search is the correct place to put this in as that is user-controllable and can be disabled -- filtering of content without giving a consenting adult a way of disabling that filtering I cannot agree with. A user called "johjeff" here wrote a sentence that quite well summarizes why:

It just makes it less likely that people who are not interested in the stuff YOU deem acceptable will stumble across it accidentally.


That is, a group of people deem what should be acceptable and opposing opinions will be filtered from the view of the larger audience. While what Google is doing here is still pretty benign, such filtering is still a very slippery slope and slipping even once will send you on a fast path to doom.

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