Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Dec 2012 11:51 UTC
Google "Google has revealed that it has no plans to develop dedicated apps for Windows 8 or Windows Phone 8 for its business app products such as Gmail or Drive." Product management director for Google Apps, Clay Bavor, told V3 that Google "will go where the users are but they are not on Windows Phone or Windows 8". Ouch - but for now, hard to argue with.
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Hard to argue with?
by gmlongo on Fri 14th Dec 2012 15:30 UTC
gmlongo
Member since:
2005-07-07

You don't really believe what Google is using as justification do you? You could make the case that WP8 doesn't have a sufficient userbase (although all signs indicate a large increase of 3-4 times), but Windows 8 sold a ton of licenses to date, with no signs of that decreasing.

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RE: Hard to argue with?
by windowshasyou on Fri 14th Dec 2012 15:45 in reply to "Hard to argue with?"
windowshasyou Member since:
2011-05-14

"but Windows 8 sold a ton of licenses to date"

Microsoft is known for inflating sales figures in an effort to generate hype. For example, see Vista.

Now that being said, assuming MS isn't tampering with numbers again and that they actually have sold 40 million licenses or whatever they claim, one has to remember that a lot of that, probably in the area of 3/4's of that figure, is for OEM. Now assuming that 3/4's is fairly accurate, that means they've really only sold 10 million licenses via retail. Now assume that roughly half of those sold by retail just wanted to try 8 and ended up downgrading <really an upgrade> back to whatever they were using. probably 3 to 5 million people using windows 8 vs 10's of millions using 7/xp/OSX/linux/bsd/whatever isn't a huge user base.

Edited 2012-12-14 16:01 UTC

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RE[2]: Hard to argue with?
by gmlongo on Fri 14th Dec 2012 16:08 in reply to "RE: Hard to argue with?"
gmlongo Member since:
2005-07-07

The numbers from MS was 4 million upgrades in the first 4 days. Obviously, that number has increased exponentially since then. According to Steam, Windows 8 usage share on their platform has already surpassed OSX.

There is very little reason to doubt that Windows 8 will have a very large market share (much larger than OSX).

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RE[2]: Hard to argue with?
by bentoo on Fri 14th Dec 2012 17:53 in reply to "RE: Hard to argue with?"
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2012-09-21

"but Windows 8 sold a ton of licenses to date"

Microsoft is known for inflating sales figures in an effort to generate hype. For example, see Vista.


Stats from NetMarketShare (and the like) disagree with you. Already at 1.41% after only 5 weeks. Will overtake Linux at 1.45% which had a 20 year head start. ;)

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qp...

Edited 2012-12-14 17:58 UTC

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RE: Hard to argue with?
by darknexus on Sat 15th Dec 2012 01:06 in reply to "Hard to argue with?"
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2008-07-15

but Windows 8 sold a ton of licenses to date, with no signs of that decreasing.

That in no way says how many actual users there are. The majority of Windows 8 sales have been to OEMs for computers the OEMs are selling. Microsoft, of course, counts those in their overall sales numbers as they should, but those numbers say nothing concerning what happens to those copies of Windows 8 after the OEMs acquire it. Do the users run it? Do they take advantage of a Windows 7 downgrade license instead, or even wipe the OEM Windows and use their own os (be it a clean copy of Windows or another)? Have said machines even been purchased yet? Proof of licenses, in Microsoft's case, does not translate into proof of a significant user base.

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RE[2]: Hard to argue with?
by Nelson on Sat 15th Dec 2012 18:07 in reply to "RE: Hard to argue with?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Who cares how they get there? The point is, they get there.

I always found this laughable:

UserA: Microsoft has sold XYZ licenses.
UserB: But..but there's no way to tell how many of those are end user sales
UserA: Uh, but go to every sales channel and look at every PC, it's preinstalled with Windows.
UserB: But..
UserA: Which means PC sales have a strong correlation with Windows sales, and PC sales are still relatively healthy.

Windows 8 will be installed on a majority of new PCs sold, and will command a monumental market share. More than iOS, more than Android, but somehow people will still find ways to contort the numbers and make it look like a failure.

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