Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Dec 2012 11:51 UTC
Google "Google has revealed that it has no plans to develop dedicated apps for Windows 8 or Windows Phone 8 for its business app products such as Gmail or Drive." Product management director for Google Apps, Clay Bavor, told V3 that Google "will go where the users are but they are not on Windows Phone or Windows 8". Ouch - but for now, hard to argue with.
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RE: Hard to argue with?
by windowshasyou on Fri 14th Dec 2012 15:45 UTC in reply to "Hard to argue with?"
windowshasyou
Member since:
2011-05-14

"but Windows 8 sold a ton of licenses to date"

Microsoft is known for inflating sales figures in an effort to generate hype. For example, see Vista.

Now that being said, assuming MS isn't tampering with numbers again and that they actually have sold 40 million licenses or whatever they claim, one has to remember that a lot of that, probably in the area of 3/4's of that figure, is for OEM. Now assuming that 3/4's is fairly accurate, that means they've really only sold 10 million licenses via retail. Now assume that roughly half of those sold by retail just wanted to try 8 and ended up downgrading <really an upgrade> back to whatever they were using. probably 3 to 5 million people using windows 8 vs 10's of millions using 7/xp/OSX/linux/bsd/whatever isn't a huge user base.

Edited 2012-12-14 16:01 UTC

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RE[2]: Hard to argue with?
by gmlongo on Fri 14th Dec 2012 16:08 in reply to "RE: Hard to argue with?"
gmlongo Member since:
2005-07-07

The numbers from MS was 4 million upgrades in the first 4 days. Obviously, that number has increased exponentially since then. According to Steam, Windows 8 usage share on their platform has already surpassed OSX.

There is very little reason to doubt that Windows 8 will have a very large market share (much larger than OSX).

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RE[3]: Hard to argue with?
by poliorcetes on Fri 14th Dec 2012 16:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Hard to argue with?"
poliorcetes Member since:
2009-05-06

Exactly. That's my point: go to any hardware store and look for PCs: most of them are offered with windows 8.

Small market share? That's a succesful bet against reality. Therefore, there are other reasons involved, pretty strange if with take the goodwill to Apple into account

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RE[3]: Hard to argue with?
by dukes on Fri 14th Dec 2012 18:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Hard to argue with?"
dukes Member since:
2005-07-06

The numbers from MS was 4 million upgrades in the first 4 days. Obviously, that number has increased exponentially since then. According to Steam, Windows 8 usage share on their platform has already surpassed OSX.

There is very little reason to doubt that Windows 8 will have a very large market share (much larger than OSX).


I don't believe this is about market share. That's just too easy.

From a Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 user (thanks to Apple for giving me reasons to start exploring other tech), I can tell you that with regards to WP8 there isn't much demand for Google dedicated apps. The reason? I don't think Google can outdo what's already available for Windows Phone. Let's take a look:

Google Drive: No thanks. SkyDrive integration is strong already. It allows the automatic uploading of taken photos from my phone. It automatically syncs all of my Microsoft Office documents. My OneNote data is stored on SkyDrive as well. What could Google Drive actually bring to the table.

GMail dedicated app: Why? The Mail app on my Windows Phone is sufficiently beautiful. It already does server searches on all my mail and I can link all my e-mail inboxes to one Live Tile if I want. What could a dedicated Gmail app bring to the table? Nothing compelling enough for the effort.

Google Docs: Don't need it now, since I have Microsoft Office on my Phone with SkyDrive integration. I'm quite sure it works fine in the HTML5 IE10 browser though. Again, what could Google do to really turn an enduser.

Google Voice app: Don't need it. GoVoice and MetroTalk are *the* apps to use if you want a seamless Google Voice experience on your phone.

YouTube dedicated app: Don't need it OR want it. Have you seen MetroTube? Talk about a quality app. I would rate this app in the top two best apps for Windows Phone.


So my point is Google might be trying to tell us one thing, but reality is that there isn't much demand for a Google branded experience on Windows Phone. Everything important is already replicated nicely.

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RE[2]: Hard to argue with?
by bentoo on Fri 14th Dec 2012 17:53 in reply to "RE: Hard to argue with?"
bentoo Member since:
2012-09-21

"but Windows 8 sold a ton of licenses to date"

Microsoft is known for inflating sales figures in an effort to generate hype. For example, see Vista.


Stats from NetMarketShare (and the like) disagree with you. Already at 1.41% after only 5 weeks. Will overtake Linux at 1.45% which had a 20 year head start. ;)

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qp...

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RE[3]: Hard to argue with?
by cdude on Sat 15th Dec 2012 10:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Hard to argue with?"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Nice (not) how you include Win8 desktop into your WP8/RT calculation but exclude Android from Linux.

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