Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Dec 2012 11:51 UTC
Google "Google has revealed that it has no plans to develop dedicated apps for Windows 8 or Windows Phone 8 for its business app products such as Gmail or Drive." Product management director for Google Apps, Clay Bavor, told V3 that Google "will go where the users are but they are not on Windows Phone or Windows 8". Ouch - but for now, hard to argue with.
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TemporalBeing
Member since:
2007-08-22

Apple fight against Android with a tsunami of patents and endangering some of the main Google's Partner. As a result, Google renews google maps for iOS 6 frantically


Google had apps on iOS from when iOS was first released. Apple shunned Google Maps for iOS6 in favor of their own maps program. Google had one ready, but didn't think Apple would allow it. Low-and-behold, after the Apple Maps disaster, they submit it and it takes over iOS again.

It has nothing to do with patents. Rather, Apple probably had entered into a partnership with Google a while back to do it. That partnership dissolved but Google kept up what they were doing as it was still good for business.

Microsoft doesn't make any serious trouble to Android (keeping apart that small fee related with patents ;) ). As a result, Google don't want to develop for Windows 8 nor Windows 8 phone.


Microsoft is irrelevant in the mobile space. They simply don't get it. Sure they've made good strides with WinPhone7/7.5/8 but they continue to just not get it.

And as others have said, there is basically a very small market for Win8/WinPhone8/WinRT - its not enough to justify putting resources into. If the market changes and it becomes a larger market then that may change, but until then they're leaving it alone.

And honestly, could you blame them?

Their existing apps work just fine on Win7, and likely in Legacy mode on Win8. If they did something in Win8 it'd mean redeveloping the entire app to more natively fit into the Metro UI, and then limit that version to only Win8. There's just not enough market to make it worth it, and people just don't like Win8 - especially on the desktop/laptop form factors.

Therefore, if Redmond launch a hurricane of patents against Google, Google will quickly change this decision


Microsoft has their own patent lawsuits against Google and Motorola. It isn't and will not make one iota difference in why the will or will not target Win8/WinPhone8 as the issue has nothing to do with patents and everything to do with whether there is enough of a user-base to get a sufficient ROI.

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22


Google had apps on iOS from when iOS was first released. Apple shunned Google Maps for iOS6 in favor of their own maps program. Google had one ready, but didn't think Apple would allow it. Low-and-behold, after the Apple Maps disaster, they submit it and it takes over iOS again.


I think almost every point you make is incorrect or unfounded. There were no Google apps on iOS at launch, there were Apple written apps that used Google data (maps, you tube etc). The maps app in iOS was written by Apple and used Google maps data. Apple didn't boot Google maps off of iOS it changed the back end of it's own maps app to no longer use Google mapping data. It did that for a number of reasons, Google would not supply Turn By Turn functionality, Google wanted ads and Apple wouldn't agree to having them in their Apple written app, and Apple quite reasonably felt vulnerable leaving it's maps functionality wholly in Google's hands.

There is no evidence that Apple delayed the deployment of the new google maps app.

I thought this was a good analysis of it all

Google’s Directionless Map Strategy

Google’s Android strategy is inconsistent and incomprehensible. Apple never would have created its own mapping program at all if Google hadn’t denied Apple audible turn-by-turn directions. Now – after Apple has integrated their own maps into their iOS operating system – Google gives Apple everything they ever wanted. How does that make any sense?

If Google wanted to deny Apple access to features that were on Android, then they shouldn’t have created Google Maps for iOS. If they wanted iOS eyeballs, then they should have given Apple turn-by-turn directions BEFORE Apple effectively un-integrated Google maps. The whole affair was completely counter-productive for all involved.

You can’t have it both ways. Either Google should be in the business of being on every mobile platform or Google should be in the business of Android. Trying to pursue both strategies is like trying to keep one foot on the dock and the other on the boat. You can’t get anywhere and it’s going to sink you sooner or later.


http://techpinions.com/googles-directionless-map-strategy/13165

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tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

I am glad Apple's marketing department was able, after tirelessly combing the internet, to find that single opinion piece that made Apple Maps not look like the ill strategized and executed fiasco it has been.

Good job boys!

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Their existing apps work just fine on Win7, and likely in Legacy mode on Win8. If they did something in Win8 it'd mean redeveloping the entire app to more natively fit into the Metro UI, and then limit that version to only Win8. There's just not enough market to make it worth it, and people just don't like Win8 - especially on the desktop/laptop form factors.


I would be happy if their Voice and Plus apps had an API, so they could be plugged into the Windows 8 Messenger app, like Facebook is. When I chat with people on Facebook, I get a desktop notification when I get a PM, and I can reply from the desktop with a quick ALT+TAB.

You just don't get that functionality in a browser with Voice/Plus, unless you use an extension, which will probably break on the next re-design, without some kind of API to access.

BTW: I like the desktop on Win8. It's better than Win7, and besides what I just mentioned above, I forget Metro is even there most of the time.

Edited 2012-12-14 22:31 UTC

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TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

"Their existing apps work just fine on Win7, and likely in Legacy mode on Win8. If they did something in Win8 it'd mean redeveloping the entire app to more natively fit into the Metro UI, and then limit that version to only Win8. There's just not enough market to make it worth it, and people just don't like Win8 - especially on the desktop/laptop form factors.


I would be happy if their Voice and Plus apps had an API
"

You mean like:

https://developers.google.com/+/api/

Google Voice is a little more problematic, but the community seems to have some solutions:

http://code.google.com/p/pygvoicelib/
http://code.google.com/p/pygooglevoice/
http://code.google.com/p/google-voice-java/


BTW: I like the desktop on Win8. It's better than Win7, and besides what I just mentioned above, I forget Metro is even there most of the time.


You're one of the few.

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