Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Dec 2012 22:03 UTC
Google A change to anything related to Google Search - the product so many of us rely on - is never going to go by unnotoced. This time around, Google has altered Image Search for US users to alter the way it handles that ever so important aspect of the web - adult content.
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RE[5]: porn destroys cultures
by Soulbender on Sat 15th Dec 2012 07:07 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: porn destroys cultures"
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

So... I guess we didn't have rape and such back in the good old days, right? You know, back in the dark ages. All sunshine and happy puppies?
Porn doesn't turn anyone into a sexual predator or rapist or whatever. These guys (because it's usually guys) were fucked up long before they got to porn. Abusive parents is quite the common denominator.
In fact, porn might actually keep these guys from doing even more damage by keeping their needs satisfied artificially (ok, probably not but it's an interesting thought)

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RE[6]: porn destroys cultures
by WereCatf on Sat 15th Dec 2012 07:51 in reply to "RE[5]: porn destroys cultures"
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2006-02-15

Porn doesn't turn anyone into a sexual predator or rapist or whatever. These guys (because it's usually guys) were fucked up long before they got to porn. Abusive parents is quite the common denominator.
In fact, porn might actually keep these guys from doing even more damage by keeping their needs satisfied artificially (ok, probably not but it's an interesting thought)


Well, it's really the exact same thing as violent video-games or TV-shows/movies: they do not really cause someone to become a homicidal maniac, the person who does go on a killing-spree because of these is already mentally disturbed from before and the trigger could just as well be something entirely different if such video-games or TV-shows/movies didn't exist.

Most people seem to have completely forgotten the fact that there was the exact same kind of controversy regarding the radio and porn magazines back in the day; take a step back, look at the history, and you'll see the same pattern repeating itself. That is, people like to blame whatever delivery systems and phenomenons that are then-current instead of just blaming the people themselves.

As for the claim about the existence of these kinds of contents preventing people from taking their fantasies out in the real world: it's been proven several times by studies that this does actually apply to video-games. I can't be arsed to google around for those papers as you're adults and can do that for yourselves, but the point is that being able to live one's fantasies in a virtual world where the most harm that can be done is verbal does work as a stress-reliever and does take off some of the pressure for trying to enact these fantasies for real. Heck, I can attest to this myself, too: I can fire up a game, go slaughter hundreds of people in various, imaginative ways, torture them if I feel like it, and so on, and I come off the game feeling satisfaction, not unfulfillment.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Exactly. People want to find something to blame, a scapegoat, when they either don't know or understand what the real psychological problem is, or they simply don't want to believe that--for example--their kid has had a mental problem long before he finally snapped went and shot up his school, so violent video games and movies are typically blamed.

Someone gets raped? Oh, it must've been that evil, evil porn that did it; after all, it's not hard to persuade people who already dislike nudity and believe in some invisible imaginary deity in the sky to take sides with you. Oh, there were illegal drugs involved? Drugs make you feel good and have an effect on your brain... we don't know a damn thing about what the drugs do, but the drugs must have had something to do with it!

Penn and Teller made an episode of Bullshit on the subject of violent video games, where they bring up lots of good points. Their comparison to the real, physical injuries that can eventually lead to paralysis, brain damage or death in the popular sport of football is especially interesting. Just look at what they did to that young gamer at the end of the show by giving him a real gun and allowing him to shoot it. Brought the poor boy to tears and he declined when asked if he would like to shoot it again. And this kid seemed to be no stranger to first-person shooters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaF9nbLo8as

Edited 2012-12-15 09:13 UTC

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