Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Dec 2012 22:37 UTC
Google "Google Sync was designed to allow access to Google Mail, Calendar and Contacts via the Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync protocol. With the recent launch of CardDAV, Google now offers similar access via IMAP, CalDAV and CardDAV, making it possible to build a seamless sync experience using open protocols. Starting January 30, 2013, consumers won't be able to set up new devices using Google Sync; however, existing Google Sync connections will continue to function." Others are free to implement the open protocols.
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RE[5]: well good to hear
by 0brad0 on Sat 15th Dec 2012 07:11 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: well good to hear"
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2007-05-05


But Google can take an open standard and make it proprietary to fit their needs.


They very much could, but their track record shows that they're very much willing to work with appropriate standards bodies to ensure that the protocols and file formats, etc. that they work on are open and accessible, unlike Microsoft.. still.


And I see Google is keeping it for the business customers which seems to me that they just dont want to pay the licenses for their free customers and want them to move over to paying if they want good advanced features. (Nothing wrong with that) but to play it like they are doing it to support open standards sounds a little fishy (Being that they also got rid of free Google Apps)


It is more than likely they'll have a slower phase out period even for business customers but it'll go away there as well eventually.


Microsoft is stuck though because they can't make money off of using open standards they could of implemented those a long time ago if they could.


That is complete nonsense. Especially for Microsoft.

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RE[6]: well good to hear
by Windows Sucks on Sat 15th Dec 2012 08:32 in reply to "RE[5]: well good to hear"
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2005-11-10

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It is more than likely they'll have a slower phase out period even for business customers but it'll go away there as well eventually.


Thats very unlikely being that Active Sync is used in the enterprise for Windows phones and PC's, Blackberry BES and also iPhones.

If they want to replace Exchange more in the enterprise they wont be getting rid of it.

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RE[6]: well good to hear
by Nelson on Sat 15th Dec 2012 17:43 in reply to "RE[5]: well good to hear"
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2005-11-29


They very much could, but their track record shows that they're very much willing to work with appropriate standards bodies to ensure that the protocols and file formats, etc. that they work on are open and accessible, unlike Microsoft.. still.


Like their broken, non standard IMAP implementations. Just because something is a standard does not mean it is implicitly good. It is still subject to abuse by implementations.



It is more than likely they'll have a slower phase out period even for business customers but it'll go away there as well eventually.


It is a shot across the bow to Microsoft's stranglehold on the enterprise market with EAS.

IMAP isn't anything comparable to what businesses use or are used to when doing device management with EAS.


That is complete nonsense. Especially for Microsoft.


I'd be much less against this move if there was a viable alternative to EAS and it wasn't a functional step backwards for the sake of politics.

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RE[7]: well good to hear
by Soulbender on Sun 16th Dec 2012 02:43 in reply to "RE[6]: well good to hear"
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2005-08-18

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Edited 2012-12-16 02:44 UTC

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RE[7]: well good to hear
by StuS on Sun 16th Dec 2012 21:17 in reply to "RE[6]: well good to hear"
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2012-12-01

What actually is broken about Google's IMAP implementation?

This is genuine question: I have a script I use to pull down my GMail, store it to a DB, and then index everything into Lucene (also playing around with clustering it, etc).

Anywho, so far it's worked fine. Actually pretty straightforward. It's one HUGE advantage of imap over EAS: it's really simple (and free) to create your own interface. But only if Google sticks to the standard ;)

Seems to be working fine now (just checked on my script).

But let me know if you know something I don't! Might save me some bug hunting ;)

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