Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Dec 2012 00:03 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft has just responded to Google's move regarding Exchange ActiveSync. Sadly, instead of addressing the very real problems consumers are about to face, Microsoft starts talking about switching to Outlook.com.
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Comment by lucas_maximus
by lucas_maximus on Tue 18th Dec 2012 11:27 UTC
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

So get this right Thom, Google drop support for EAS for non paying customers and you are saying that they are wrong to advertise that they support the same features for free on their own service.

OKAY!

Edited 2012-12-18 11:29 UTC

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 18th Dec 2012 11:32 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

So get this right Thom, Google drop support for EAS for non paying customers and you are saying that they are wrong to advertise that they support the same features for free on their own service.

OKAY!


I'm not saying they are wrong for advertising their own products. I'm saying they are wrong for not actually addressing the very real customer issue that's about to come up.

Quite the difference.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Why should they?

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Adurbe on Tue 18th Dec 2012 14:55 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

The issue to the customer has been caused by Google in this instance, not MS.

MS/Nokia are currently pushing WP8 as a corporate device which can be linked into your current infrastructure.

More and more UK articles are seemingly discussing the platform in this light. No idea as of yet if this is converting into Real corporate customers, but perception is half the battle in these things.

Google changing their implementation with such short notice just when BYOD is starting to gain real traction seems baffling.

GMail ISNT in "beta" anymore, companies lose trust when a 3rd party suddenly breaks their systems. Especially if it involves the CEO's shiny new toy....

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Nelson on Tue 18th Dec 2012 18:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Windows Phone is positioned as enterprise friendly, in enterprises, EAS is almost ubiquitous.

EAS is an "open" standard by virtue that you can implement it if you pay a royalty bearing license, it is not free, but it is not a black box either. If you're willing to play ball (Like Samba does, and yes, even Google still does) you can interoperate.

It is not unreasonable to expect Microsoft to want to make money off of a technology, that still, to this day, is better than the alternative. Like I said, I'd have absolutely no problem with this if IMAP+CalDAV and CardDAV provided anywhere near the same level of functionality, but even with IMAP Idle (Which I doubt many very OS vendors implement anyway) its rubbish. Its not true push, more like long polling.

With that said, I also think its important to highlight the fact that Outlook.com doesn't sacrifice user experience over politics. It is unbelievable that Google has given their consumers such a raw deal.

Google: Hey, we know you love your Ferrari, but we've got this cool, open, standard Unicycle for you to try!
User: Uh, what?
Google: Yeah, it's great. That's the alternative. A unicycle. It'll get you from A to B just like your Ferrari.
Google: Oh, and by the way, we've just sold your Ferrari for you. Its not open enough, you won't ever need that anyway.

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