Linked by Kaj-de-Vos on Thu 20th Dec 2012 00:22 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS As the Syllable project predicted many years ago, version 3 of the REBOL programming language has finally been open sourced, under the Apache 2 licence (screenshot on Syllable Desktop). Also, the alpha version of the high-level Red programming language, supporting Syllable Desktop, has been released, by now in version 0.3.1 (screenshot, demo program, video at the Science Park in Amsterdam).
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Comment by cipri
by cipri on Thu 20th Dec 2012 03:50 UTC
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Yes great, it was predicted by kaj about 6 years ago that it would be open sourced. At the beginning i was sceptical. Some years later seeing after a big stagnation of rebol I was sure too, that it's the only thing that they still can do. Rebol 3 is now about since half of a decade in alpha phase.
So Rebol 3.0 ALPHA is now open source. But why dont they make Rebol 2.x opern source? Because Rebol 2 is in a useable state.

This "news" is like telling us that now (the horse) black beauty (now being very old and sick and soon dieing) will be very cheap to buy.

This news about rebol is lika a deja vu, nearly everytime (in the last years) when there is on osnews about syllable, then it has very little with syllable to do, but it's about rebol. What is syllable going to do in future? Anytime when rebol gets a little update to write a news about it? Just because they dont make anything by themself, and for the sake of being in the "os-news", we need to get this news from syllable?

Rebol and syllable have at least one thing in common:
both projects are at the limit of surviving, and they both hope that developers will come and start coding instead of them.....

It was not noticed in the last few years, that this doesnt work like that? Nobody came to rescue you. If you want success... than you must really work yourself, and go a good job, and not just waiting in hopeing that makin fake publicity will bring some stupid and at the same time capable(!) programmers to syllable, who will save them.

I shouldn't have wasted the time on writing this comment, but somehow i'm still curious why you still continue with the fake publicity, even you noticed in the last 3-5 years that it doesnt work.

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RE: Comment by cipri
by henrikmk on Thu 20th Dec 2012 07:48 in reply to "Comment by cipri"
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So Rebol 3.0 ALPHA is now open source. But why dont they make Rebol 2.x opern source? Because Rebol 2 is in a useable state.

REBOL 2 contains third party code and it would take too much time and effort to open source it. It was apparently quite a legal effort to open source REBOL 3.

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RE: Comment by cipri
by -pekr- on Thu 20th Dec 2012 08:52 in reply to "Comment by cipri"
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Cipri - you now clearly confirmed, that you are mostly a troll. You put in strong claims here, with clear evidence, that you have absolute zero Rebol or even technical related knowledge and you are just trolling.

Tech industry plays the alpha, beta, production game. I now even more realise, with such idiotic reaction as yours, why I value Carl Sassenrath's work - his alpha SW might be some other project nearly production state SW.

Do you know, that R3 actually has less tickets that R2? So why the call to open R2? So - if you are not informed, you better stay silent ...

I am really fed-up with your reactions, when you pop up each time with negative reaction, each time some Syllable related news is published. You are like small spoiled child - so please - go grow up or do us a favor and find yourself a better place to play. Thanks ...

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RE[2]: Comment by cipri
by cipri on Thu 20th Dec 2012 12:49 in reply to "RE: Comment by cipri"
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you have absolute zero Rebol or even technical related knowledge

I wouldnt bet my money related to the technical knowledge. I even have a diploma asserting my techinal knowledge :-)

I spent a lot of time with rebol 2.
And have written all sort of applications like chat server and chat client for irc (and also with direct communication and using additional encryption).
With rebol 3 i could not do that much because the gui was not in a useable state by then. And I'm sure there are still good reasons why it's called ALPHA.

I am really fed-up with your reactions

my reactions are negative, because syllable comes up all the time with joke-articles, nothing of weight, nothing of own creation.

Come up finally with wifi support (which was promised by vanders in 2005 or 2006). Port Mesa, and hw graphics drivers, and I will be the first to congratulate you.
In the last years it hardly happened that syllable didnt write related to rebol, and in fact as far as i see rebol did not make any/considerable progress on syllable. You don't have any gui bindings for rebol or red, and i can bet that even in 5 years from now you wont have functional gui bindings for syllable. And this is because syllable awaits a miracle instead of doing real work.

I would understand it, if rebol itself would write the news about opening the sources. But why syllable? Should haiku announce the updates of mesa, just because mesa runs on haiku? Hello??
In one article syllable was even telling us that red runs on ubuntu, how great!

the progress on syllable desktop in the last years, is that incredible small, but instead of working on core syllable desktop, we get such fake articles, just for the sake of being on osnews.

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