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Microsoft Microsoft has just responded to Google's move regarding Exchange ActiveSync. Sadly, instead of addressing the very real problems consumers are about to face, Microsoft starts talking about switching to
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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by Laurence on Thu 20th Dec 2012 11:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
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Yeah, because Netflix was going to take that sitting down, right? No.

I don't follow that statement. The WINE work around was officially published by Netflix and the reason they use Silverlight is because MPAA demanded it.

I hope you're joking. By the time .NET launched, Borland IDEs were floundering. I sincerely am questioning your recollection of events.

Those are two unrelated points.
Yeah Borland were struggling at that point, but that doesn't mean that the languages themselves were bad; just that Borland's IDEs were sub-par. Given my point was about the language and run time environments used by MS, it's somewhat moot how good or bad Borlands IDE was. Though let's be honest, even as late as then, Borland were only sub-par to Visual Studio.

IE6s problem was not intentional deviation from standards.

I was talking about earlier versions of IE when I mentioned that.

Microsoft is only guilty of virtually abandoning IE until Vista was released. That's five years.

I'd already covered that.

MS killed the competition by implementing their own 'standards' in the mid 90s. Then left the market to stagnate for so long that the standards IE6 conformed to were out of date.

Browsers still weren't completely CSS2.1 compliant when IE8 came out, for fucks sake. People were still excited about browsers passing ACID2 and ACID3 tests.

News flash, all browsers have ridiculous quirks. IEs are just the most well known.

How about the 12 implementations of the Flexible Box module out there across all browsers. Is that adherence to standards?

I'd also raised those points as well. I'm not by any means saying that other browsers are not guilty. But IE has been the worst offender - by far.

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