Linked by Kaj-de-Vos on Thu 20th Dec 2012 00:22 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS As the Syllable project predicted many years ago, version 3 of the REBOL programming language has finally been open sourced, under the Apache 2 licence (screenshot on Syllable Desktop). Also, the alpha version of the high-level Red programming language, supporting Syllable Desktop, has been released, by now in version 0.3.1 (screenshot, demo program, video at the Science Park in Amsterdam).
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RE[2]: Comment by cipri
by cipri on Thu 20th Dec 2012 12:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by cipri"
cipri
Member since:
2007-02-15

you have absolute zero Rebol or even technical related knowledge

I wouldnt bet my money related to the technical knowledge. I even have a diploma asserting my techinal knowledge :-)

I spent a lot of time with rebol 2.
And have written all sort of applications like chat server and chat client for irc (and also with direct communication and using additional encryption).
With rebol 3 i could not do that much because the gui was not in a useable state by then. And I'm sure there are still good reasons why it's called ALPHA.

I am really fed-up with your reactions


my reactions are negative, because syllable comes up all the time with joke-articles, nothing of weight, nothing of own creation.

Come up finally with wifi support (which was promised by vanders in 2005 or 2006). Port Mesa, and hw graphics drivers, and I will be the first to congratulate you.
In the last years it hardly happened that syllable didnt write related to rebol, and in fact as far as i see rebol did not make any/considerable progress on syllable. You don't have any gui bindings for rebol or red, and i can bet that even in 5 years from now you wont have functional gui bindings for syllable. And this is because syllable awaits a miracle instead of doing real work.

I would understand it, if rebol itself would write the news about opening the sources. But why syllable? Should haiku announce the updates of mesa, just because mesa runs on haiku? Hello??
In one article syllable was even telling us that red runs on ubuntu, how great!

the progress on syllable desktop in the last years, is that incredible small, but instead of working on core syllable desktop, we get such fake articles, just for the sake of being on osnews.

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RE[3]: Comment by cipri
by Kaj-de-Vos on Thu 20th Dec 2012 13:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by cipri"
Kaj-de-Vos Member since:
2010-06-09

I ported Mesa two years ago or so, it's in Syllable 0.6.7. Vanders never promised wifi, we merely discussed it. The rest of your "info" is also misinformation.

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RE[4]: Comment by cipri
by cipri on Thu 20th Dec 2012 23:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by cipri"
cipri Member since:
2007-02-15

I ported Mesa two years ago or so, it's in Syllable 0.6.7. Vanders never promised wifi, we merely discussed it. The rest of your "info" is also misinformation.


Well, wifi was not only discussed it was intended in 2007 as a x-mas present for 2008, or something like that.

And related to mesa3d:
my sincer congratulations for porting it.
But too bad that your port of mesa is not complelte in the sense that it doesnt "print on the screen" according to your own documentation. So I have some little doubts about how well mesa is tested on syllable if you dont have a direct visual output. This is some kind of mesa for blinds.
You could have a good occupation for the next decade: Bring mesa to the screen, and then see if indeed mesa is working correctly, and integrate it in the syllable api.
But surprize, there are very bad chances this to happen, because for that you need to know the appserver, and there is hardly someone left in the so called "syllable team", who has good knowledge related to the appsever (Vanders is inactive for years, Arno is gone, Rick is gone, and Dee seems to be occupied with pyro).
So yes, you have a good occupation for the next decade.
One could wish hw acc. graphics drivers too, but indeed that's too much even if you are an optimist.

in short again:
if you have good news related to syllable development i'm happy to read it, but seeing that you come up that often with fake news, that are not really that much related to syllable, is somehow annoying, and seeing all the screenshots that are the same as in previous "syllable news".

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