Linked by lucas_maximus on Fri 21st Dec 2012 00:09 UTC
Microsoft "In a move that has raised eyebrows, Microsoft has submitted a patch to the WebKit project to extend the open source rendering engine with a prototype implementation of the Pointer Events specification that the company is also working on together with Google, Mozilla, and Opera. WebKit is the rendering engine used in Apple's Safari and Google's Chrome browsers, making Microsoft's work a contribution to products that are in direct competition to its own."
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Comment by Drumhellar
by Drumhellar on Fri 21st Dec 2012 00:28 UTC
Drumhellar
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2005-07-12

This is awesome, and not bad, but I do await the reasons as to why this will be the death of everybody's firstborn.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by Delgarde on Fri 21st Dec 2012 01:22 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

Maybe Microsoft are finally giving up on their own rendering engine, and getting ready to move to WebKit... wouldn't be the end of the world if they did that, would it?

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by 0brad0 on Fri 21st Dec 2012 01:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2007-05-05

Maybe Microsoft are finally giving up on their own rendering engine, and getting ready to move to WebKit... wouldn't be the end of the world if they did that, would it?


I don't think so. It is already the most widely used HTML rendering engine.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Drumhellar on Fri 21st Dec 2012 01:34 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Well, they need it an open standard to aid with adoption, and it also helps if they are the first out the door with an open standard like this.

Releasing the API in an unencumbered form is cool, but by patching WebKit themselves, they're making sure that the only reason for not supporting it is that it came from Microsoft - which is what Apple is doing.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by RobG on Fri 21st Dec 2012 13:46 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2012-10-17

Actually, I like the fact that there remains competition in the rendering engine space. If everyone standardised on WebKit, Apple would have de facto control of Browsers, and I trust them even less than MS.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by hussam on Fri 21st Dec 2012 16:40 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
hussam Member since:
2006-08-17

Maybe Microsoft are finally giving up on their own rendering engine, and getting ready to move to WebKit... wouldn't be the end of the world if they did that, would it?

Too later for that ;)
So no, they won't although they have indicated in the past that if they could go back in time and take today's webkit with them, they would have chosen that instead. However it is took late now. Keep in mind that less that 1% of the world knows that there are browsers other than Internet Explorer and the fact that many windows applications are built around the internet explorer html renderer.

Edited 2012-12-21 16:41 UTC

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by Dima on Fri 21st Dec 2012 09:30 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
Dima Member since:
2006-04-06

When I see news like this, I always wonder, what are Microsoft's intentions?

In this case, though, the guy who posted the patch, Scott Blomquist, happens to be a friend of mine. Puts a completely different perspective on things: it's no longer a big corporation - just a developer who wants to help out.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Nelson on Fri 21st Dec 2012 14:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

It is in Microsofts interest to have the web, especially the mobile web, interoperate with IE. Too many mobile websites are written using Apple only Touch extensions with Apple-isms baked into it.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 21st Dec 2012 15:35 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
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2008-06-02

This is awesome, and not bad, but I do await the reasons as to why this will be the death of everybody's firstborn.


Well it's Microsoft, the company that's cool to hate*. Since when has the Anything-But-Microsoft crowd ever needed a better excuse than that?

*Excepting iFanbois, who have done a complete "Ministry of Truth"-style flip-flop in the last few years. After more than 2 decades of impotent sound and fury at directed Microsft, Google is now the company that's cool to hate - and Microsoft is now the bee's knees, because they're at odds with Google too.

It's kind of like having someone spend years advocating for the eradication of something they see as a terrible problem... and then doing a 180-reversal of that position, because someone they dislike becomes afflicted by said problem.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Drumhellar on Fri 21st Dec 2012 18:56 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

After more than 2 decades of impotent sound and fury at directed Microsft, Google is now the company that's cool to hate - and Microsoft is now the bee's knees, because they're at odds with Google too.


What are you talking about?

We are at war with Google... We have always been at war with Google.

Also, the chocolate ration is about to be reduced from 30 grams to 20 grams.

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