Syllable gets open sourced REBOL 3, new Red language
Linked by Kaj-de-Vos on Thu 20th Dec 2012 00:22 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS As the Syllable project predicted many years ago, version 3 of the REBOL programming language has finally been open sourced, under the Apache 2 licence (screenshot on Syllable Desktop). Also, the alpha version of the high-level Red programming language, supporting Syllable Desktop, has been released, by now in version 0.3.1 (screenshot, demo program, video at the Science Park in Amsterdam).
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REBOL
by renox on Fri 21st Dec 2012 10:30 UTC in reply to "REBOL"
renox
Member since:
2005-07-06

So your justification that Rebol has a strange behaviour because C has also a strange (different) behaviour??

Both are wrong IMHO: the best behaviour is: associativity as in math for + - * / and for all the other operators Rebol behaviour.

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REBOL
by Kaj-de-Vos on Fri 21st Dec 2012 13:41 in reply to "REBOL"
Kaj-de-Vos Member since:
2010-06-09

That's an interesting idea, which would indeed fit best with common people's experience. The nice thing about REBOL is that it's a meta language: you have control over how the language is evaluated. REBOL makes it easy to write an expression evaluator that would use the rules you stated. I would indeed implement such an evaluator if I would allow users to enter their own expressions, for example in a calculator application.

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REBOL
by RobG on Fri 21st Dec 2012 14:27 in reply to "REBOL"
RobG Member since:
2012-10-17

I absolutely disagree. There are 2 choices to my mind:

1. Use standard precedences for arithmetic, comparison and logic operators as defined in common mathematical usage.

2. Have everything use standard precedences.

C's implementation is actually flawed - Ritchie himself acknowledges so (http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html), so blindly copying that seems the wrong approach.

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REBOL
by henrikmk on Fri 21st Dec 2012 15:00 in reply to "REBOL"
henrikmk Member since:
2005-07-10

From the horses' mouth, so to speak, on math precedence in REBOL:

http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/math-precedence.html

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REBOL
by satsujinka on Fri 21st Dec 2012 20:02 in reply to "REBOL"
satsujinka Member since:
2010-03-11

Your link's dead, but you can get to it here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cm.bell-labs.c...

The only issue I can find in the document is that boolean and bitwise operators have a somewhat weird relationship (boolean comes before bitwise.) The example being:
if((a&mask)==b)

the second set of parenthesis are required.

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