Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 00:38 UTC, submitted by sonic2000gr
PC-BSD PC-BSD 9.1 has been released. "The PC-BSD team is pleased to announce that version 9.1 is now available! This release includes many exciting new features and enhancements, such as a vastly improved system installer, ZFS 'Boot Environment' support, TrueOS (a FreeBSD based server with additional power-user utilities), and much more!" PC-BSD 9.1 is based on the soon-to-be released FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE with several enhancements, including an updated installer, better ZFS support during installation, bug fixes and new GUI configuration/administrative utilities.
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RE[3]: No live DVD?
by Morgan on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 04:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: No live DVD?"
Morgan
Member since:
2005-06-29

Well I've changed hardware since then so take that into consideration, but it seems to be much more stable and cohesive this time around. I know some of that is due to improvements to KDE as well, as only very recently I've been able to use that DE to get work done.

I'm definitely impressed though! I'm considering moving away from GNU/Linux on my workstation and vanilla FreeBSD is a pain to install and configure, so I jumped on the chance to try the new PC-BSD. For me, it's almost there. I also love the "True OS" server features; geeks.com has some nice server hardware on sale really cheap and I'm thinking of picking up a unit for bare metal to play around on. BSD is my first choice for a server OS.


Edit: Commenting via phone still sucks: P

Edited 2012-12-22 04:13 UTC

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RE[4]: No live DVD?
by UltraZelda64 on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 04:51 in reply to "RE[3]: No live DVD?"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I agree on FreeBSD being a pain to configure as a complete desktop OS, yet awesome for servers. My main problem with PC-BSD has always been its way of packaging programs, Windows-style, with everything needed for a package contained within the package. Good for eliminating dependencies (duplicates), but not for conserving disk space, unfortunately. In a way, I kind of wish DesktopBSD was still in development... it was similar, also very good, but with a more traditional style of package management.

I am tempted to give the latest version a try though, overall it sounds good, and I do like BSD in general. Some *huge* upgrades appear to be coming up with FreeBSD 10, BTW... of course, that's probably a year or more away, but it's already sounding good.

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RE[5]: No live DVD?
by Doc Pain on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 06:17 in reply to "RE[4]: No live DVD?"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

My main problem with PC-BSD has always been its way of packaging programs, Windows-style, with everything needed for a package contained within the package.


You can use the native FreeBSD methods of installing software from the ports collection (from source) or from binary packages; port management tools such as portmaster can be used. Still this method does not "play 100 % nice" with PBI which is the preferred method of installation on PC-BSD. But if you want to get rid of (old-fashioned) manual downloading and handholding, there's a CLI tool for PBI installations (which includes the abilty of scripting and automating processes). PBI offers easy binary methods of installing and updating your software through a centralized control mechanism while providing decentralized entry ways for software. Users who do not want to deal with the "complicated" ports collection will probably find PBI easier to use, and professional users can still rely on efficient tools.

Good for eliminating dependencies (duplicates), but not for conserving disk space, unfortunately.


There's an excuse, erm... reason for that: disks are huge and cheap today. :-)

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RE[5]: No live DVD?
by jessesmith on Tue 25th Dec 2012 00:03 in reply to "RE[4]: No live DVD?"
jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

That is not how PBI are handled anymore. Originally, installing a PBI would include all of its duplicated dependencies, but that is no longer the case. The last couple of releases have used a small filtering process which removes duplicate libraries. This means installing a package, like Firefox, doesn't take up any more room on PC-BSD than it would on, say, Linux.

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v RE[4]: No live DVD?
by peteo on Sun 23rd Dec 2012 14:24 in reply to "RE[3]: No live DVD?"
RE[5]: No live DVD?
by Morgan on Sun 23rd Dec 2012 19:12 in reply to "RE[4]: No live DVD?"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

You're still mad about that Haiku thread from some time last year, I take it? Well, I hope you have a happy holiday season. ;)

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RE[4]: No live DVD?
by UltraZelda64 on Sun 23rd Dec 2012 22:25 in reply to "RE[3]: No live DVD?"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I broke down and said "fsck it" and decided to delete the Win8 partitions to make room for a new one last night. I haven't put a whole lot of time trying PC-BSD out yet, but

Two things that don't work:
- Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02). No surprise here--I'm lucky if I can find a Linux distro that supports this wretched, god damn wireless card... I've given up on even bothering to try to get it to work several years ago, so I don't blame BSD on it. I honestly no longer even care about that card.
- Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster. This one's a little more important, and it's probably the only thing that would prevent me from using PC-BSD exclusively on the machine as a desktop OS.

One thing I am exremely impressed about is its memory use with KDE. It's generally very low at ~200 MB or less for the most part, even while installing packages (something that never seems to fail to spike memory use in most Linux distros I've tried). Of course, I wasn't really heavily using the system so I'll be doing more testing, but that's very impressive so far. openSUSE guzzles several hundred megs right after logging in, quickly leading to swapping.

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RE[5]: No live DVD?
by Lengsel on Sun 23rd Dec 2012 23:11 in reply to "RE[4]: No live DVD?"
Lengsel Member since:
2006-04-19

Your BCM4318 wifi is supported with OpenBSD, your CA0106 may possibly work with OpenBSD but would have to test it to find out for sure

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