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Window Managers In the final years of my high school career, more concerned with going out and drinking three times a week than with actually doing anything meaningful at my supposedly posh gymnasium, I rediscovered my love for computing - a love lost during the onset of aforementioned going out and drinking. Realising I would hit university soon, I saved up 2000 guilders, ordered the parts for a brand-new computer, and thanks to this then state-of-the-art computer, old flames were rekindled. Since this pun is burning a hole in my pocket - it was an enlightening experience.
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But is it more than eyecandy?
by Zbigniew on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:17 UTC
Zbigniew
Member since:
2008-08-28

I might be wrong, but after installing some pre-release of 0.17 I've got a feeling, that, actually, Enlightenment is mainly about "nice looking" desktop.

There's nothing wrong with that, but - on the other hand - after trying it a few days, I'm back on IceWM, which IMHO gives me if not more, then at least similar level of "customization".

No, it doesn't offer "translucent windows", available in E17, it doesn't offer "wizards" for configuration (but I've got no problem with editing text config files) - but actually, after these few days I noticed, that I don't need that much of eyecandy.

I agree: maybe there are many people, who do - but that's why I'm asking: is E17 anything more, than "nice looking desktop environment" (since what I can have using IceWM is nice enough for me)?

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Kaj-de-Vos Member since:
2010-06-09

The answer is in the article: it's a stack of libraries that you can make such a desktop with, or anything else you want to create.

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swift11 Member since:
2012-08-23

The answer is in the article: it's a stack of libraries that you can make such a desktop with, or anything else you want to create.

yep, Tizen is based on EFL ;)

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pgeorgi Member since:
2010-02-18

I agree: maybe there are many people, who do - but that's why I'm asking: is E17 anything more, than "nice looking desktop environment" (since what I can have using IceWM is nice enough for me)?

I guess it's possible to theme e17 "like icewm" (and without all the bling) - and it would probably be faster than the original.

It's quite amazing what their libraries are capable of.

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vtorri Member since:
2007-03-05


I guess it's possible to theme e17 "like icewm" (and without all the bling) - and it would probably be faster than the original.


yes, faster and consume even less memory, of course.


It's quite amazing what their libraries are capable of.


Do you know terminology ? Look at http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology&l=en and the videos on that page :-)

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Zbigniew Member since:
2008-08-28

And is it possible to make it *NOT* messing with fonts? E17 makes all the fonts a bit blurry. And switching antialiasing to "none" in "look -> fonts -> hinting/fallbacks" didn't help.

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RE: But is it more than eyecandy?
by gan17 on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:38 in reply to "But is it more than eyecandy?"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

I could be wrong, but I think E17's "pitch" when it first came out was that it could (supposedly) do most of the things other desktop environments could with less resources. It included it's own file manager, some effects/compositing, had some sort of desktop grid feature or "shelves" or something, and could also support external modules.

But yeah, it always seemed a more "bling" based environment to me as well. Couldn't really gel with it myself, but I tend to prefer tiling or box type WMs, so I won't say my opinion of it is fair in any sense. Always good to have choice, though.

If I recall correctly, E17 got a bit more PR when it came with gOS (Ubuntu based, I think), a distro with lots of Google & Web2.0 services built into it. Had a sort of OSX-on-a-budget look about it. Dead project now.

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Kaj-de-Vos Member since:
2010-06-09

E17 has a tiling mode that you can get at first start from the configuration manager.

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vtorri Member since:
2007-03-05


If I recall correctly, E17 got a bit more PR when it came with gOS (Ubuntu based, I think), a distro with lots of Google & Web2.0 services built into it. Had a sort of OSX-on-a-budget look about it. Dead project now.


Take a look at Bodhi Linux or Elive. They are based on E17 too.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I have to admit that I was never too much of a fan of Enlightenment's eye candy myself either. Sure, it can look pretty... but I just never really wanted all that extra stuff. Something about the overall feel of it also felt awkward to me. One thing I can seriously compliment it on, though, is its ability to perform those effects with so few resources; it barely even works up the processor, let alone even needing fancy 3D hardware acceleration from a GPU to perform its animations.

Edited 2012-12-23 01:25 UTC

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