Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 16:12 UTC
In the final years of my high school career, more concerned with going out and drinking three times a week than with actually doing anything meaningful at my supposedly posh gymnasium, I rediscovered my love for computing - a love lost during the onset of aforementioned going out and drinking. Realising I would hit university soon, I saved up 2000 guilders, ordered the parts for a brand-new computer, and thanks to this then state-of-the-art computer, old flames were rekindled. Since this pun is burning a hole in my pocket - it was an enlightening experience.
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RE: But is it more than eyecandy?
by Kaj-de-Vos on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:36
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RE[2]: But is it more than eyecandy?
by swift11 on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:59
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RE: But is it more than eyecandy?
by pgeorgi on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:36
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I agree: maybe there are many people, who do - but that's why I'm asking: is E17 anything more, than "nice looking desktop environment" (since what I can have using IceWM is nice enough for me)?
I guess it's possible to theme e17 "like icewm" (and without all the bling) - and it would probably be faster than the original.
It's quite amazing what their libraries are capable of.
RE[2]: But is it more than eyecandy?
by vtorri on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 19:34
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I guess it's possible to theme e17 "like icewm" (and without all the bling) - and it would probably be faster than the original.
yes, faster and consume even less memory, of course.
It's quite amazing what their libraries are capable of.
Do you know terminology ? Look at http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology&l=en and the videos on that page :-)
RE[2]: But is it more than eyecandy?
by Zbigniew on Sun 23rd Dec 2012 02:28
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RE: But is it more than eyecandy?
by gan17 on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:38
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I could be wrong, but I think E17's "pitch" when it first came out was that it could (supposedly) do most of the things other desktop environments could with less resources. It included it's own file manager, some effects/compositing, had some sort of desktop grid feature or "shelves" or something, and could also support external modules.
But yeah, it always seemed a more "bling" based environment to me as well. Couldn't really gel with it myself, but I tend to prefer tiling or box type WMs, so I won't say my opinion of it is fair in any sense. Always good to have choice, though.
If I recall correctly, E17 got a bit more PR when it came with gOS (Ubuntu based, I think), a distro with lots of Google & Web2.0 services built into it. Had a sort of OSX-on-a-budget look about it. Dead project now.
RE[2]: But is it more than eyecandy?
by Kaj-de-Vos on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 17:42
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RE[2]: But is it more than eyecandy?
by vtorri on Sat 22nd Dec 2012 19:32
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If I recall correctly, E17 got a bit more PR when it came with gOS (Ubuntu based, I think), a distro with lots of Google & Web2.0 services built into it. Had a sort of OSX-on-a-budget look about it. Dead project now.
Take a look at Bodhi Linux or Elive. They are based on E17 too.
RE: But is it more than eyecandy?
by UltraZelda64 on Sun 23rd Dec 2012 01:24
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I have to admit that I was never too much of a fan of Enlightenment's eye candy myself either. Sure, it can look pretty... but I just never really wanted all that extra stuff. Something about the overall feel of it also felt awkward to me. One thing I can seriously compliment it on, though, is its ability to perform those effects with so few resources; it barely even works up the processor, let alone even needing fancy 3D hardware acceleration from a GPU to perform its animations.
Edited 2012-12-23 01:25 UTC
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 22:23 UTC
"Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood. Weâll have to wait and see how this hardware delta gets exposed in games over time, but the gap is definitely there. The funny thing about game consoles is that itâs usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms. On the plus side, the Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4. Even compared to the Xbox 360 we should see improvement in many use cases thanks to modern power management techniques." AnandTech does its usual in-depth thing.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:38 UTC
"The Verge has learned that HTC's Chief Product Officer, Kouji Kodera, left the company last week. Kodera was responsible for HTC's overall product strategy, which makes the departure especially notable on the heels of the global launch of the make-or-break One. It's not just Kodera. In the past three-odd months, HTC has lost a number of employees in rapid succession." I really hope HTC pulls it together.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:30 UTC, submitted by JRepin
"It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013. This is a snapshot of Debian 'sid' at the time of the Debian 'wheezy' release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release." Important note: 75% of Debian packages are supported bu Debian GNU/Hurd. Impressive.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 22:06 UTC
"The first killer app was VisiCalc. This early spreadsheet turned the Apple II from a hobbyist toy to a business computer. VisiCalc came with room for improvement, though. In addition, a new architecture and operating system, the Intel-based IBM PC and MS-DOS, also needed a spreadsheet to be taken seriously. That spreadsheet, released in early 1983, would be Lotus 1-2-3, and it would change the world. It became the PC's killer app, and the world would never be the same. On May 14, IBM quietly announced the end of the road for 1-2-3, along with Lotus Organizer and the Lotus SmartSuite office suite. Lotus 1-2-3's day is done." Impressive 30 year run.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 21:45 UTC
"There's a disconnect between how Apple CEO Tim Cook sees his company's tax strategies and how some members of the US Senate view it. That became clearer than ever today after Cook and two other Apple executives testified before Congress, explaining why they're holding most of their international income in Irish subsidiaries like Apple Operations International, which declare no tax residency anywhere in the world. AOI hasn't filed a tax return anywhere in the world for the last five years, yet it earned $30 billion in income from 2009 to 2012, according to a Senate report released yesterday." Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's just. Apple, Google, Microsoft, and many more - these companies might not be breaking any laws, but it's obvious to anyone that what they are doing is scummy.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 15:53 UTC
The new WebKit Opera for Android has been released. "Opera 14 for Android is built on top of Chromium 26, with a total overhaul of the UI in native code, making it fit well with the latest Android design guidelines. Go get the build from Google Play or point your browser to m.opera.com, and give it a spin!"
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/20/13 22:43 UTC
The Verge pointed me to a blog post by Leap Motion - which reveals how their Kinect-like motion control works with Windows 8. "From the second you plug in your Leap Motion Controller, you'll be able to browse the web and interact with your computer just by moving your hands and fingers in the air. With Leap Motion technology and Windows, you can do everything that's possible with multi-touch inputs - without actually touching anything. This also means that existing applications in Windows 7 and 8 will respond to your natural hand and finger movements. Soon, we'll show you how Leap Motion will work with Mac OS X." Quite cool.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/20/13 21:50 UTC
PocketNow interviews Marc Dillon, and there's an interesting note about why Jolla is keeping the display properties under wraps: "We're leaving some of those details out because we do understand that there are a lot of really big players in the market and they tend to take certain components in the market and dominate them. We created the ability to actually be able to run Sailfish on multiple hardware displays and be able to swap components, so this is part of the demand and supply planning phase. We are committed to this industrial design which is a 4.5-inch display, an 8 megapixel camera on the back and a front-facing camera at the front, and the exact specs of the display we'll provide when we're close to delivery." Something you rarely hear anything about.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/19/13 23:15 UTC
"This is my NeXTstation Turbo Color booting the Mac System 7.1 Operating System using a hardware add-on called 'Daydream'. The Daydream has a Mac ROM and a few custom ICs in it and hooked up to the NeXTs DSP port. Turns your NeXT into a full fledged 68k powered Mac." So cool.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/19/13 23:11 UTC, submitted by Drumhellar
"The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 6.1, the first feature update of the NetBSD 6 release branch. It represents a selected subset of fixes deemed important for security or stability reasons, as well as new features and enhancements. Please note that all fixes in the prior security/bugfix updates (NetBSD 6.0.1 and 6.0.2) are also in 6.1."More News »
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I might be wrong, but after installing some pre-release of 0.17 I've got a feeling, that, actually, Enlightenment is mainly about "nice looking" desktop.
There's nothing wrong with that, but - on the other hand - after trying it a few days, I'm back on IceWM, which IMHO gives me if not more, then at least similar level of "customization".
No, it doesn't offer "translucent windows", available in E17, it doesn't offer "wizards" for configuration (but I've got no problem with editing text config files) - but actually, after these few days I noticed, that I don't need that much of eyecandy.
I agree: maybe there are many people, who do - but that's why I'm asking: is E17 anything more, than "nice looking desktop environment" (since what I can have using IceWM is nice enough for me)?