Linked by Kaj-de-Vos on Thu 20th Dec 2012 00:22 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS As the Syllable project predicted many years ago, version 3 of the REBOL programming language has finally been open sourced, under the Apache 2 licence (screenshot on Syllable Desktop). Also, the alpha version of the high-level Red programming language, supporting Syllable Desktop, has been released, by now in version 0.3.1 (screenshot, demo program, video at the Science Park in Amsterdam).
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RE[12]: Comment by cipri
by demetrioussharpe on Tue 25th Dec 2012 03:18 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Comment by cipri"
demetrioussharpe
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2009-01-09

Since Syllable is an open source project, the malcontents are free to fork the project. In fact, they did, sort of, and this turned out to be the extent of their capabilities:

http://pyro-os.org

Since you know everything better, you are free to join them.


You know, not one single Pyro developer has commented on this story. We've stood on the sidelines & occasionally glanced at the arguments thrown back & forth, but we didn't get involved. In fact, since the fork, none of us have said anything negative to or about you. But now, you sit there & point at us in a mocking manner. However, you should know that we're actually not doing worse than Syllable. We're spending our time working on the actual OS, not on bullshit snatched from the far reaches of the web. Sure, defend your group, I can't blame you for that. But don't you dare try to do it at the expense of Pyro! We're quiet, because we're actually doing work. We're actually trying to take what we forked & actually make it more usable. By looking at your repository, it might actually seem as if you've done a lot of work, since you do commits. But, let's be honest here, you do commits to the core system for developers who don't actually have commit access. Once again, you're sitting here spreading lies about your developmental prowess, but nothing's actually being accomplished. Also, if you ported Mesa3D, why are you using PicoGL running against SDL as your libGL.so??? Somehow, you think that putting EVERYTHING on top of SDL will solve all of your problems, but you're sadly mistaken. I supposed you thought that you could create Syllable Server, & use it to control the direction of both Server AND Desktop. Unfortunately for you, you only succeeded in driving almost everyone away. Who knows, maybe the sun has set on Syllable Desktop, since you're not a system developer.

You've made your bed, so now it's time for you to lie in it, Kaj. You did this to yourself. Pyro WILL NOT take any of the heat for you. Instead, we'll continue to work on improving the system. When we're ready to make an announcement, we'll do so. When we do so, it'll be an announcement of substance, not smoke & mirrors.

The funny thing is that you used to talk about how far ahead of Haiku we were. The whole time, Haiku was blowing past us at lightening speed. Now, Pyro's doing the same thing to Syllable. Hmmm.....I wonder...will you guys still be stuck using less than 2GB of system ram in 2015 or even 2020? Sure, it's fine to have a system that can function with such limited ram; but, why should it have to???

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RE[13]: Comment by cipri
by Kaj-de-Vos on Tue 25th Dec 2012 14:24 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by cipri"
Kaj-de-Vos Member since:
2010-06-09

You have a very selective memory. Do you call this staying quiet?

http://www.osnews.com/thread?488246

There are many others like it. Be a man and get your own fork to work, instead of bashing Syllable and me to hide your own incompetence.

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RE[14]: Comment by cipri
by demetrioussharpe on Tue 25th Dec 2012 19:50 in reply to "RE[13]: Comment by cipri"
demetrioussharpe Member since:
2009-01-09

You have a very selective memory. Do you call this staying quiet?

http://www.osnews.com/thread?488246

There are many others like it. Be a man and get your own fork to work, instead of bashing Syllable and me to hide your own incompetence.


So, you're trying to use this as some kind of proof? A person defending himself from being dragged into bullshit that's got YOU at the center of it? Your weak attempt is laughable. Every single time you attempt to drag us into your shit, we'll defend ourselves & out you as the poser that you so clearly are. As far as getting my own fork, why don't you get your own OS? You talk a big game in public, but all of us who were in the Syllable community know that you basically hijacked & siderailed Syllable's development. You claim it as your own, but you've done virtually NOTHING to the actual OS itself. So, it looks like Ciprian was absolutely correct. As far as my own fork, I'm already a core developer of a fork, why would I fork it again?

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RE[13]: Comment by cipri
by zima on Tue 25th Dec 2012 20:52 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by cipri"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

The funny thing is that you used to talk about how far ahead of Haiku we were. The whole time, Haiku was blowing past us at lightening speed.

Looking at the bickering between Syllable and Pyro camps, Haiku looks even better now... (with how friendly and lively it is)

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RE[14]: Comment by cipri
by demetrioussharpe on Tue 25th Dec 2012 21:28 in reply to "RE[13]: Comment by cipri"
demetrioussharpe Member since:
2009-01-09

"The funny thing is that you used to talk about how far ahead of Haiku we were. The whole time, Haiku was blowing past us at lightening speed.

Looking at the bickering between Syllable and Pyro camps, Haiku looks even better now... (with how friendly and lively it is)
"

I was referring to back when we were all Syllable developers. Well, all of us except for Kaj, who's never actually developed an actual piece of Syllable. At that point, we hadn't forked.

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