Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Dec 2012 00:32 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Now that the holidays are upon us (happy holidays!) and the year is about to end, we at OSNews thought it time to finally lift the veil a little bit on the next version of OSNews - OSNews 5. I've hinted at this next version of OSNews here and there in the comments, but we think it's time to make it all a little bit more official by taking in some initial feedback.
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Krocs work MIA?
by kragil on Wed 26th Dec 2012 01:07 UTC
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

In one podcast Kroc was talking about his new OSnews site, is there anything left of that?

And if you guys introduce captchas I will want the old site back really hard.

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RE: Krocs work MIA?
by Kroc on Thu 27th Dec 2012 09:34 in reply to "Krocs work MIA?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I worked on a very complex redesign of OSNews that tried to present almost everything that already existed in the most logical and structured way; the categorisation and navigation were unified through a pretty innovative system called the power bar. Ultimately it was too complex for me to do in spare time and it had to be dropped, so applaud Thom for driving this new design and cutting it down to absolute basics, it's really what it needs. I liked v3 the most, and I hope we get back to that level of straight-forwardness ;)

Maybe the work I did helped to influence Thom's design a little, if there's anything they take away I hope it's the "hyper-threading" comment CSS I invented, there's no other website out there that uses something like it; nesting is a habitual problem.

If David allows it I might one day be able to show the prototype designs I did for OSNews.

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RE: Krocs work MIA?
by ansidotsys on Fri 28th Dec 2012 02:48 in reply to "Krocs work MIA?"
ansidotsys Member since:
2008-08-15

As I understand it, it was being handwritten:

http://www.osnews.com/thread?400309

I’m hand writing the next version of OSnews. It is going to be faster than any other news site. It will be incredibly elegant, and well designed, and it will be HTML5. It will work in IE. It is the best piece of code I’ve ever written and it is leagues ahead of the game.

If you can’t compete with Notepad, then you don’t know your craft well enough. Get learning, all the knowledge is freely available on the Internet.


With the decision now to use Drupal, I think that speaks volumes against the practicality of pure text-based editors for managing a large site. While it can be done, it simply does not scale. Drupal, Dreamweaver, Wordpress, Notepad, TextMate, etc. are all tools that are a means to an end. It's when you get too attached to your means that you forget the end goal.

In this case, producing a website that is of maintainable complexity and actually getting it done. It's the difference between walking the walk and talking the talk.

Edited 2012-12-28 02:49 UTC

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RE[2]: Krocs work MIA?
by Kroc on Fri 28th Dec 2012 10:19 in reply to "RE: Krocs work MIA?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

And time. I have a job and now a wife and kid on the way. It was wrong of me to brag, but I already have a website and forum system I wrote myself to prove I can walk the walk. There's LESS and many other tools for managing a large scale website with a text editor as your main development tool. All computing is just advanced forms of processing "text".

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