Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Dec 2012 00:32 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Now that the holidays are upon us (happy holidays!) and the year is about to end, we at OSNews thought it time to finally lift the veil a little bit on the next version of OSNews - OSNews 5. I've hinted at this next version of OSNews here and there in the comments, but we think it's time to make it all a little bit more official by taking in some initial feedback.
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RE: Not a fan
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 26th Dec 2012 07:10 UTC in reply to "Not a fan"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm also a little concerned about the comments section. You didn't show enough to go off there, but I'm guessing there's going to be a lot less distinction between individual comments than there is now, which might make it harder to follow.


Great that you picked up on this - this is a feature, not a bug ;) . I've often noticed that some people tend to focus on who posted a comment, instead of the actual content of a comment. As such, I wanted to make it less clear WHO posted a comment, so that the CONTENT of a comment gains prominence.

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RE[2]: Not a fan
by WereCatf on Wed 26th Dec 2012 07:43 in reply to "RE: Not a fan"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

"I'm also a little concerned about the comments section. You didn't show enough to go off there, but I'm guessing there's going to be a lot less distinction between individual comments than there is now, which might make it harder to follow.


Great that you picked up on this - this is a feature, not a bug ;) . I've often noticed that some people tend to focus on who posted a comment, instead of the actual content of a comment. As such, I wanted to make it less clear WHO posted a comment, so that the CONTENT of a comment gains prominence.
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People have differing tastes. I personally would call this a mis-feature as I find the availability of graphical avatars making it much quicker for the eye to latch on and discern where one comment starts and another ends and whose comments I'd like to view first. It's one of the things I hate about e.g. Slashdot: I know several people who tend to make insightful, read-worthy comments, but without such a quick way of finding those aforementioned comments I have to trudge through them all in the hopes of finding those gems. It totally discourages me from participating and results in me skipping 99% of all the comments.

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RE[3]: Not a fan
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 26th Dec 2012 07:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Not a fan"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The comments are heavily based on HackerNews - a site with zero content, entirely focussed on the insightfulness of its comments. You can go try it out to get a feel for it - and they are even more stark.

Still, it's definitely a concern, so it's on the radar.

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RE[2]: Not a fan
by Moochman on Wed 26th Dec 2012 14:22 in reply to "RE: Not a fan"
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

"I'm also a little concerned about the comments section. You didn't show enough to go off there, but I'm guessing there's going to be a lot less distinction between individual comments than there is now, which might make it harder to follow.


Great that you picked up on this - this is a feature, not a bug ;) . I've often noticed that some people tend to focus on who posted a comment, instead of the actual content of a comment. As such, I wanted to make it less clear WHO posted a comment, so that the CONTENT of a comment gains prominence.
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I love the fact that people's names and identities are tied to their comments. It makes it feel like a conversation with real people, rather than an anonymous horde. I second the thought that this is a "mis"-feature.

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RE[2]: Not a fan
by Drumhellar on Wed 26th Dec 2012 19:05 in reply to "RE: Not a fan"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Distinction between individual comments is preferable, and the origin of the comment should be easily identifiable. I mean, lets face it: Not all comments are equal. While I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say that there are those who always post garbage comments I'd want to skip, there are those that frequently post insightful, well-informed comments, and it would be nice if it were easier to pick their comments out. Heck, being able to color-code the people you pick as one of your favorites would be useful.

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RE[3]: Not a fan
by Morgan on Wed 26th Dec 2012 20:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Not a fan"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

This is already possible using the "friends and fans" feature. If someone is a "fan" of yours, their comment header shows up in yellow. If you become a "fan" of the same person, your relationship changes to "friends" and their header is now a light green.

It would be great if this particular feature survives the change.

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RE[2]: Not a fan
by cfgr on Thu 27th Dec 2012 01:35 in reply to "RE: Not a fan"
cfgr Member since:
2009-07-18

Great that you picked up on this - this is a feature, not a bug ;) . I've often noticed that some people tend to focus on who posted a comment, instead of the actual content of a comment. As such, I wanted to make it less clear WHO posted a comment, so that the CONTENT of a comment gains prominence.


On the other hand, I use the name as a filter to decide if a comment is worth my time or not. When I read two annoying comments from some hyperactive fanboy who's arguing for the sake of arguing despite overwhelming evidence, then his next posts in that discussion are likely to be annoying as well - and usually they start dominating the whole comment section which ruins other discussions.

It might be an interesting experiment to fold all of someone's posts in a topic when that person has two down-voted posts in that same topic (or perhaps even for x posts with score 1 where x > 10, which means he's spamming the place with non-upvoted comments). Other topics would be unaffected.

Edited 2012-12-27 01:40 UTC

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