Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 19:05 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Expected, but still insanely cool: Canonical has just announced Ubuntu for phones. This is a new mobile phone operating system, with its own user interface and development platform. It's built around Qt5 and QML, and the interface reminds me of MeeGo on the N9. It's supposed to be on the shelves in early 2014, but the developer preview is out today.
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RE: I want one!
by saynte on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 20:56 UTC in reply to "I want one!"
saynte
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2007-12-10

I've only used Qt here and there, so I can't really say if its a great application framework (it certainly seemed sufficient for how I used it), but:

I think it's a great win allowing developers to reuse at least *some* of the skills they may have picked up already. Android development with the Java APIs started out as a completely independent effort (as far as I know), not based on pre-existing libraries, so there seemed to be a big learning curve to pick up all the Android-isms at first.

I don't know if the broader Ubuntu Phone platform will take off, but I like this aspect at least.

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RE[2]: I want one!
by shmerl on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 23:11 in reply to "RE: I want one!"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

I think it's a great win allowing developers to reuse at least *some* of the skills they may have picked up already.

And Qt is good with that, since Qt is familiar to many who already used it on mobile and desktop. So no effort is wasted.

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v RE[3]: I want one!
by Nelson on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 23:24 in reply to "RE[2]: I want one!"
RE[2]: I want one!
by bassbeast on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 08:25 in reply to "RE: I want one!"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

But lets be honest folks...how many think this or Mozilla OS has a snowball's chance in hell? show of hands? You have a market that is too crowded as it is and is now pretty much owned by two companies, Google and Apple. Even with all their money MSFT can't get their foot in the door, what makes anybody think a company with serious money issues like Canonical has a snowball's chance?

I know if I were running a company making hardware and saw how Canonical has been reduced to begging on their download page and sticking Amazon ads which are not only highly inappropriate (thanks to amazon having lousy adult filters) but which also may be illegal since you are supposed to be over the age of 18 to use Amazon and Canonical doesn't force the user to click on a EULA before first install or upgrade? I would be seriously leery of using their OS, and why should I even think about it? I can get Android for free, do what I want with it, and its already got the apps.

The problem with getting into a market this late in the cycle is the classic catch-22, people aren't gonna want to use an OS that doesn't have the apps and the app devs aren't gonna want to waste limited resources porting to a platform that doesn't have the people. Since the majority of popular apps are NOT FOSS this means you can't just have the community do the porting which means you are at the mercy of the app devs. MSFT has the money to outright pay for the devs to port so they aren't risking anything, Canonical simply doesn't have the funds to do that so I have a feeling its gonna be a non starter.

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RE[3]: I want one!
by brion on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 20:30 in reply to "RE[2]: I want one!"
brion Member since:
2010-11-04

Mozilla at least has actual hardware partners and scheduled releases in a couple countries... but they're explicitly going for the low-end market.

Canonical hasn't shown yet that they can get *any* market; they still have no takers for "Ubuntu for Android" and this project too has no hardware partners yet.

Maybe it can get momentum as an aftermarket hobbyist OS... but I still haven't actually seen any product out of their *last* mobile OS announcement, so I'm not holding my breath.

I'll probably be more generous when there's something you can flash onto an actual phone and use it.

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