Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 23:38 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft's legal chief: "We continue to be dogged by an issue we had hoped would be resolved by now: Google continues to prevent Microsoft from offering consumers a fully featured YouTube app for the Windows Phone." Utter nonsense, since MetroTube offers a complete and full YouTube experience on Windows Phone (it's one of the best Windows Phone applications), and YouTube+ on Windows 8. Two fantastically rich applications, built by small ISVs - yet Microsoft can't do the same? Don't make me laugh. Coincidentally, Microsoft is also whining some more about Google's removal of ActiveSync - Redmond again refuses to acknowledge that all it needs to do is implement the open standards CalDAV and CardDAV, just like everyone else has done. Times have changed, Ballmer. You don't get to dictate the industry anymore.
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RE[2]: Please Thom
by Nelson on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 00:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Please Thom"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

MetroTube and YouTube+ break because they use non-documented APIs, the public facing YouTube API has hardly changed.

Why does MetroTube need to use these APIs?

Wait for it.


Because YouTube doesn't offer up an API. It's also interesting that only third party YouTube apps which are forced to use these APIs break, and not officially sanctioned YouTube apps.

The fact that you make excuses for this is ridiculous.

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RE[3]: Please Thom
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 00:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Please Thom"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

They break because the API changes. Documented APIs change too. Third parties adapt. That's life as an ISV. Ask the SAMBA guys. Ask OpenOffice. Ask anybody who has ever had to tap into someone else's APIs, specifications, or standards.

You have offered up zero evidence that this is all a big conspiracy to harm consumers using Windows Phone, as you claim. Until you do, you're just rambling nonsense.

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RE[4]: Please Thom
by Nelson on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 00:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Please Thom"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The public facing YouTube API changes rarely. But, if it changes, that's great. Because it's documented.

When YouTube changes their private API, in an effort to subvert MetroTube and other third party apps, it becomes a bigger deal because time must be spent figuring out a work around, resubmitting to the Windows Store, and hoping it doesn't break again.

You're suggesting Microsoft use undocumented APIs and submit it out to consumers on the hopes that Google doesn't decide to do something about the blatant violation of their terms of use. Perhaps Google can willy nilly ignore the legal ramifications of what they do with others property, but Microsoft can't.

Why is it so difficult for you to get behind Google opening up their YouTube API? Why is it so hard for you to point the finger at Google?

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RE[4]: Please Thom
by Nelson on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 00:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Please Thom"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

OOXML and the network protocols SAMBA uses are open and documented standards/protocols.

YouTube is not. You can't find documentation to make a fully featured YouTube client. I don't think you understand this.

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RE[4]: Please Thom
by Deviate_X on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 13:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Please Thom"
Deviate_X Member since:
2005-07-11

They break because the API changes. Documented APIs change too. Third parties adapt. That's life as an ISV. Ask the SAMBA guys. Ask OpenOffice. Ask anybody who has ever had to tap into someone else's APIs, specifications, or standards.

You have offered up zero evidence that this is all a big conspiracy to harm consumers using Windows Phone, as you claim. Until you do, you're just rambling nonsense.


thom you are loosing credibility i'm surprised

i'm sure you can't see the bigger commercial picture (not conspiracy) being played out

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