Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 23:38 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft's legal chief: "We continue to be dogged by an issue we had hoped would be resolved by now: Google continues to prevent Microsoft from offering consumers a fully featured YouTube app for the Windows Phone." Utter nonsense, since MetroTube offers a complete and full YouTube experience on Windows Phone (it's one of the best Windows Phone applications), and YouTube+ on Windows 8. Two fantastically rich applications, built by small ISVs - yet Microsoft can't do the same? Don't make me laugh. Coincidentally, Microsoft is also whining some more about Google's removal of ActiveSync - Redmond again refuses to acknowledge that all it needs to do is implement the open standards CalDAV and CardDAV, just like everyone else has done. Times have changed, Ballmer. You don't get to dictate the industry anymore.
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RE[2]: Yes...
by gfolkert on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 02:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Laughable"
gfolkert
Member since:
2008-12-15

Its just semantics.

Poor Microsoft can't release a YouTube App.

Poor Microsoft doesn't have the support for EAS in a third party application.

Poor Microsoft has to defend itself from the mean Google-Monster.

Get over it. Poor Microsoft isn't poor at all. Its just them complaining because they ran the Computer World for so long, they are getting comeuppance and don;t know how to handle it.

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RE[3]: Yes...
by Nelson on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 03:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Yes..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Now if the shoe was on the other foot, and Microsoft was locking Google and Android out of Skype, or Skydrive, or Outlook. Or if Microsoft blocked Google access to the Microsoft Store or whatever underhanded tactic you could think of, I guarantee that you, and many others would be up in arms and this post would have 200 comments instead of just 25.

There is such a double standard that it is ridiculous.

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RE[4]: Not particularly...
by gfolkert on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 05:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Yes..."
gfolkert Member since:
2008-12-15

Not particularly true, since Google isn't the Pink 8,000# over-weight bald-headed Gorilla in the room.

Plus... Microsoft have such such such history its not even funny. I mean Microsoft has done that as a matter of course. And where was the double standard there when it was happening? There wasn't, because nobody dare try it to Micorosoft as they'd be *DEAD* commercially... and they *DID* change APIs all the time at any whim and still do.

Its more like why cry for Microsoft right now, when its seriously getting its comeuppance.

Obviously you've only been in the computer industry for 6 or so years, since they started the decline brought on by their decades long haughtiness and hubris.

Its not at all a double standard... its a more of "About effing time they got what is coming to them!"

I'll never shed a tear for Microsoft, they don't deserve a single one. Maybe they could drink their own Alligator Tears.

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RE[4]: Yes...
by The1stImmortal on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 11:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Yes..."
The1stImmortal Member since:
2005-10-20

Now if the shoe was on the other foot, and Microsoft was locking Google and Android out of Skype, or Skydrive, or Outlook. Or if Microsoft blocked Google access to the Microsoft Store or whatever underhanded tactic you could think of


Brilliant example!

Actually, Skype's protocol is locked up - ISV's *cannot* build a full featured client around Skype's protocol without the same kind of issues third party YouTube apps face (even more, in fact, due to the nature of the protocol). Additionally, since the Microsoft acquisition of Skype was first announced, there's been a few licensing agreements for the protocol pulled (Skype for Asterisk being the big example)

Also, last I checked, Microsoft's store didn't support clients running Google's Android. Nor should they be forced to.

Likewise Google should not be forced to support clients running on MS's OS. Especially while Google is not the dominant/monopoly Email/Groupware provider, and while MS Phone 8/RT is such a small segment of the market.

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RE[3]: Yes...
by Deviate_X on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 13:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Yes..."
Deviate_X Member since:
2005-07-11

Its just semantics.

Poor Microsoft can't release a YouTube App.

Poor Microsoft doesn't have the support for EAS in a third party application.

Poor Microsoft has to defend itself from the mean Google-Monster.

Get over it. Poor Microsoft isn't poor at all. Its just them complaining because they ran the Computer World for so long, they are getting comeuppance and don;t know how to handle it.


And in the process it is the end-user getting screwed over so that google can have its comeuppance

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RE[4]: Yes...
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 13:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Yes..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

And in the process it is the end-user getting screwed over so that google can have its comeuppance


Microsoft could have addressed all of these years ago. They chose not to.

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