Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 23:38 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft's legal chief: "We continue to be dogged by an issue we had hoped would be resolved by now: Google continues to prevent Microsoft from offering consumers a fully featured YouTube app for the Windows Phone." Utter nonsense, since MetroTube offers a complete and full YouTube experience on Windows Phone (it's one of the best Windows Phone applications), and YouTube+ on Windows 8. Two fantastically rich applications, built by small ISVs - yet Microsoft can't do the same? Don't make me laugh. Coincidentally, Microsoft is also whining some more about Google's removal of ActiveSync - Redmond again refuses to acknowledge that all it needs to do is implement the open standards CalDAV and CardDAV, just like everyone else has done. Times have changed, Ballmer. You don't get to dictate the industry anymore.
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RE: Please Thom
by WorknMan on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 04:53 UTC in reply to "Please Thom"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

If Microsoft did ANYTHING on this level, there'd be 10 articles a day, you'd probably find a Jury foreman on a murder trial somewhere, and do some kind of witch hunt against him too.

This is utterly and completely RIDICULOUS.


Of course, you're right. But with Microsoft having been evil jackasses for well over a decade, it's kind of hard for me to shed a tear for them. It's like watching a bully finally getting his ass beat.

What can I say? karma is a bitch ;) And Google is going to get theirs one day as well, especially if they continue their path to the dark side.

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RE[2]: Please Thom
by Nelson on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 05:31 in reply to "RE: Please Thom"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I hear you 100% on the karma bit, but there are ways to hurt Microsoft without hurting end users.

Google has now purposely crippled their Email offerings and locked out consumers from one of their most popular services, all over a petty pissing contest with Microsoft.

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RE[3]: Please Thom
by Soulbender on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 06:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Please Thom"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Well, Google really have no obligation to support Microsoft's protocols and it's none of Microsoft's business what Google does.
It might be smart of them to do it but that's a different matter. If users really need this feature it will either a) be re-introduced or b) they'll get a different phone.
What, you think Microsoft cares about how this affect users? No, they care about how it affects the company.

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RE[3]: Please Thom
by The1stImmortal on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 10:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Please Thom"
The1stImmortal Member since:
2005-10-20

Google has now purposely crippled their Email offerings and locked out consumers from one of their most popular services, all over a petty pissing contest with Microsoft.


This is a little unfair. Google provide a means to access their services (Google Apps/GMAIL/etc) using a publicly documented and (mostly) standardised protocol suite (*DAV+IMAP).

Microsoft also provide a means to access their services (Exchange servers & Outlook.com/hosted exchange) via a publicly documented and entirely unstandardised protocol (EAS/EWS for mobile/desktop - there's also RPC[oHTTP] which is a mess even Microsoft is trying to figure out how to get away from and which I'll ignore)

This is in both cases in addition to the web interfaces of course.

Google should no more be expected to provide, for free (to users), EAS and EWS access to their services, than Microsoft should be expected to provide, for free (to users), *DAV+(decent)IMAP support via Outlook.com & Exchange based systems. (Exchange backed IMAP kinda sucks)

In fact, given the open, unencumbered nature of *DAV+IMAP, there should in fact be more reason to expect MS to adopt these protocols in their services than for Google to adopt EWS/EAS.

(Yes I know EWS hasn't come up, but as the desktop complement to EAS it makes sense to mention here)

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