Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 20:04 UTC
Legal "As was widely expected, the Federal Trade Commission announced this morning that it has reached a settlement agreement with Google, bringing the commission's antitrust investigations into the search giant to a close. Two different areas of Google's business were being explored: the way it prioritized search results, and the way that Google had sought injunctions against devices that were thought to have infringed upon standards-essential patents from Motorola." Would have loved to see the FRAND system crumble, though. Let the patent mess explode - to change the system, we need disruption, not appeasement.
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jared_wilkes
Member since:
2011-04-25

So you do understand that we are uniquely talking about the unfairness of Google and Samsung (with minor instances of others trying to push the boundaries because of the people like you supporting the delusion that SEPs are mighty weapons more powerful than non-SEPs... but, really, mostly just the plainly, grossly, unfair actions of Samsung and Google)?That otherwise, it can be said, relatively speaking, that the entirely of the FRAND SEP world operated, continues to operate, and will operate in the future with little, or at least minor or legally resolvable, conflict? Certainly not the 3 plus years of Samsung and Moto/Google trying to ban Apple and Microsoft products across tens of countries in hundreds of court cases? Yes/no?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Samsung sued after Apple attacked for no reason (in my and many other people's views). Apple is the aggressor. Let's never forget that.

So yeah, it sucks that Samsung had to resort to FRAND, but much like I will defend myself with whatever weapon-like object within my reach when I'm attacked, so can Samsung protect itself as well. Samsung's choice of weapon was unfortunate (as would mine be if I grabbed a decent knife and seriously injured my attacker), but considering the circumstances of Apple's patent aggression, entirely understandable.

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Reality and the law says otherwise. Even after the final veil has been withdrawn, you'll still likely be fooling yourself that this is unfair.

Your analogy is weak. Again, Nokia defended themselves within the bounds of what was actually a "weapon" and legally permissible. Google and Samsung have not been doing so. In your analogy, Nokia would be the company properly defending themselves. Samsung and Google would be someone who decided to attack their attackers families or something otherwise egregious and indefensible... or killing someone for sucker punching you or something appropriately analogous rather than fair, measured, and reciprocal defense of your personal safety.

Edited 2013-01-04 00:58 UTC

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