Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 19:31 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris NexentaOS, Debian-based GNU/Solaris, has opened a pilot-program. "We'll open Nexenta web developer portal completely for the general public by mid-November. Today we are launching a Pilot Program. Solaris developers and the entire OpenSolaris community - you are welcome to participate in the Pilot!"
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by Smartpatrol on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 19:43 UTC
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site is password protected. either way Debian-based GNU/Solaris is about the dumbest thing i have heard of. What is so wrong with SUN userland? <shakes head>

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by on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 19:47 in reply to "Sad"
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They're not going to use GNU userland from what I understood. The GNU/ naming is not being used properly.

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by on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 20:35 in reply to "RE: Sad"
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by crozier on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 20:08 in reply to "Sad"
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Solaris is impressive, but in comparison to Debian it is very difficult to install, patch and maintain. Furthermore, their bundled OSS software is very poorly assembled. Also, the GNU utilities like tar, grep, and sed have far more features than their Sun counterparts.

Debian and Solaris are the only two operating systems I use, but I've often wished that I could have the best of both worlds. It sounds like this could be it... but they don't want to let me into their site yet ;)

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by on Thu 3rd Nov 2005 12:49 in reply to "RE: Sad"
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From
http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/012745....

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If interested, please send e-mail to support at nexenta.com, and tell us a few
words about yourself. We'll respond with a user/password.

Thanks!

Nexenta Team

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by on Thu 3rd Nov 2005 18:53 in reply to "RE: Sad"
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I would say you are half right.

Sun's build of GNU software on their companion CD is junk. I install software from sunfreeware or build my own packages. In my case I have a custom "support CD" I made with all of the packages we install plus a recent patch cluster, patches for our particular hardware and software. Debian Solaris might eliminate the need for me to do all of this.

Sun's new patch tools are really slick though. Old patchpro wasn't bad but their new updatemanager is gravy. My only criticism of it is that being java based it is slow.

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by molnarcs on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 22:54 in reply to "Sad"
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2005-09-10

Debian package management is cool (or so I heard). Sun userland - I never used solaris, but if it's the same as with FreeBSD, than that userland is already partly gnu, isn't it? Why is the idea dumb? Is every sun tool better than the debian/gnu equivalent - tht is, if there are nongnu tools for every userland util you might nedd: what tar are they using? some sort of sun tar - like bsdtar - or gnutar? gmake or some sun version of make? which top? (aix's top sucks for instance, is sun's top better?). Etc.

So if you going to make such offhand remarks, please explain.

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by on Wed 2nd Nov 2005 23:30 in reply to "RE: Sad"
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Debian package management is cool (or so I heard). Sun userland - I never used solaris, but if it's the same as with FreeBSD, than that userland is already partly gnu, isn't it? Why is the idea dumb? Is every sun tool better than the debian/gnu equivalent - tht is, if there are nongnu tools for every userland util you might nedd: what tar are they using? some sort of sun tar - like bsdtar - or gnutar? gmake or some sun version of make? which top? (aix's top sucks for instance, is sun's top better?). Etc.

Do us a favor, go grab a good UNIX manual... it will do good for your knowledge..

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by Smartpatrol on Thu 3rd Nov 2005 16:00 in reply to "RE: Sad"
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True vim is better and sometimes its nice to have -z option for tar these are simple additions to a Solaris system if someone can't live without it. Solaris doesn't have top they use prstat which is just as good or better then top. I do not have any problems using Solaris's package management system its clean and simple. My point is that GNU userland is not significantly better then SUN's as to go through the trouble of replacing it.

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by on Thu 3rd Nov 2005 01:08 in reply to "Sad"
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Because the GNU userland is a lot better? The GNU userland actually has modern tools, rather than SysV tools not been touched in years?

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