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Solaris is impressive, but in comparison to Debian it is very difficult to install, patch and maintain. Furthermore, their bundled OSS software is very poorly assembled. Also, the GNU utilities like tar, grep, and sed have far more features than their Sun counterparts.
Debian and Solaris are the only two operating systems I use, but I've often wished that I could have the best of both worlds. It sounds like this could be it... but they don't want to let me into their site yet 
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I would say you are half right.
Sun's build of GNU software on their companion CD is junk. I install software from sunfreeware or build my own packages. In my case I have a custom "support CD" I made with all of the packages we install plus a recent patch cluster, patches for our particular hardware and software. Debian Solaris might eliminate the need for me to do all of this.
Sun's new patch tools are really slick though. Old patchpro wasn't bad but their new updatemanager is gravy. My only criticism of it is that being java based it is slow.
Debian package management is cool (or so I heard). Sun userland - I never used solaris, but if it's the same as with FreeBSD, than that userland is already partly gnu, isn't it? Why is the idea dumb? Is every sun tool better than the debian/gnu equivalent - tht is, if there are nongnu tools for every userland util you might nedd: what tar are they using? some sort of sun tar - like bsdtar - or gnutar? gmake or some sun version of make? which top? (aix's top sucks for instance, is sun's top better?). Etc.
So if you going to make such offhand remarks, please explain.
Debian package management is cool (or so I heard). Sun userland - I never used solaris, but if it's the same as with FreeBSD, than that userland is already partly gnu, isn't it? Why is the idea dumb? Is every sun tool better than the debian/gnu equivalent - tht is, if there are nongnu tools for every userland util you might nedd: what tar are they using? some sort of sun tar - like bsdtar - or gnutar? gmake or some sun version of make? which top? (aix's top sucks for instance, is sun's top better?). Etc.
Do us a favor, go grab a good UNIX manual... it will do good for your knowledge..
True vim is better and sometimes its nice to have -z option for tar these are simple additions to a Solaris system if someone can't live without it. Solaris doesn't have top they use prstat which is just as good or better then top. I do not have any problems using Solaris's package management system its clean and simple. My point is that GNU userland is not significantly better then SUN's as to go through the trouble of replacing it.







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site is password protected. either way Debian-based GNU/Solaris is about the dumbest thing i have heard of. What is so wrong with SUN userland? <shakes head>
Edited 2005-11-02 19:44