Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 23:38 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft's legal chief: "We continue to be dogged by an issue we had hoped would be resolved by now: Google continues to prevent Microsoft from offering consumers a fully featured YouTube app for the Windows Phone." Utter nonsense, since MetroTube offers a complete and full YouTube experience on Windows Phone (it's one of the best Windows Phone applications), and YouTube+ on Windows 8. Two fantastically rich applications, built by small ISVs - yet Microsoft can't do the same? Don't make me laugh. Coincidentally, Microsoft is also whining some more about Google's removal of ActiveSync - Redmond again refuses to acknowledge that all it needs to do is implement the open standards CalDAV and CardDAV, just like everyone else has done. Times have changed, Ballmer. You don't get to dictate the industry anymore.
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RE[5]: Please Thom
by JAlexoid on Fri 4th Jan 2013 13:07 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Please Thom"
JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

Except that Google doesn't use the DAV suite (not even implemented by default in Android, ffs) or IMAP with Push on Android or on iOS. They use their Gmail app with a proprietary syncing solution.


Only push mechanism is proprietary and undocumented, the actual sync is IMAP(with GMail extensions, documented) and CalDAV+CardDAV.

Google is leading from behind here, they don't implement the standards they advocate.

They may not use those standards everywhere, but they do implement them. (Implement != use)

Edited 2013-01-04 13:09 UTC

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RE[6]: Please Thom
by Nelson on Fri 4th Jan 2013 14:47 in reply to "RE[5]: Please Thom"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


Only push mechanism is proprietary and undocumented, the actual sync is IMAP(with GMail extensions, documented) and CalDAV+CardDAV.


No. Android does not implement the DAV suite. Sorry. Contact, Calendar, and Push on Android is proprietary.

So basically what Google did was make their own proprietary syncing solution the only one people have at their disposal while simultaneously not releasing such a syncing solution for Windows or Windows Phone.


They may not use those standards everywhere, but they do implement them. (Implement != use)


So it's do as I say, not as I do? Ridiculous.

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RE[7]: Please Thom
by JAlexoid on Sat 5th Jan 2013 13:51 in reply to "RE[6]: Please Thom"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

No. Android does not implement the DAV suite. Sorry. Contact, Calendar, and Push on Android is proprietary.


It's not available for use for non-Google accounts, but the built-in apps use CardDAV and CalDAV as the protocols.

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