Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 19:05 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Expected, but still insanely cool: Canonical has just announced Ubuntu for phones. This is a new mobile phone operating system, with its own user interface and development platform. It's built around Qt5 and QML, and the interface reminds me of MeeGo on the N9. It's supposed to be on the shelves in early 2014, but the developer preview is out today.
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RE[10]: I want one!
by ndrw on Sat 5th Jan 2013 01:57 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: I want one!"
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You are confusing the language with the framework.

Nope. Perhaps I should have made it clearer. I don't care about C# when there are tens if not hundreds of better and free languages out there. IMO, the only reason for using C# is .Net framework.

How is listing what you can and can't do with it questionable? ... it tell you what you can and can't do.

You are right - it isn't questionable. It is just incompatible with GPL and most other copyleft licenses.

Same with the "do not sue us" clause - I mentioned that Google wouldn't accept it but the clause also conflicts with GPL.

You are supposed to fill it out ... FFS.

Fill out what? And how am I, all employess/contributors, customers/users supposed to get the signature of someone from Microsoft? Mind you, the promise is "personal" and non-transferable.

I have never seen a job listing for Haskell, and Clojure ... ??????????????????

Precisely. That's because it isn't the quality of language that matters but the size and richness of the framework. Especially when you bet your future on the choice of the silo are you going to live in.

No they don't, they are all the Oracle JVM repackaged for Desktop OSes and the others might be using Java ME or similar.

Oracle is a nasty partner to work with but the list of vendors and platforms is still way longer than for .Net (=Microsoft&Windows).

Anyway C# is a programming langauge and not a framework, you are confusing the two.

No, I'm not. I hope I made it clear now that I couldn't care less about C# - the language (IMO not interesting and encumbered). .Net framework does have a lot of valuable features indeed but it is not opensource and is not available on any of the platforms I'm using.

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RE[11]: I want one!
by lucas_maximus on Sat 5th Jan 2013 13:23 in reply to "RE[10]: I want one!"
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So basically you are saying you just don't like the language. That is fine.

You are still referring to them as the same thing when they are not.

C# is a language, .NET / Mono are frameworks.

Edited 2013-01-05 13:26 UTC

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