Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Jan 2013 14:53 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y And so this situation is starting to get ridiculous - and consumers are, as usual, caught in the middle of it all. Google has just blocked Windows Phone devices from accessing Google Maps on their phones. In addition, it also seems Windows Phone users are now restricted to the basic HTML version of the mobile GMail website. While understandable from a defensive perspective - Microsoft's extortion scheme targeting Android device makers and all that - it's still a massive dick move that only hurts consumers. Update: the media attention has worked - Google is backpedalling, and will remove the redirect. "We periodically test Google Maps compatibility with mobile browsers to make sure we deliver the best experience for those users. In our last test, IE mobile still did not offer a good maps experience with no ability to pan or zoom and perform basic map functionality. As a result, we chose to continue to redirect IE mobile users to Google.com where they could at least make local searches. The Firefox mobile browser did offer a somewhat better user experience and that’s why there is no redirect for those users. Recent improvements to IE mobile and Google Maps now deliver a better experience and we are currently working to remove the redirect. We will continue to test Google Maps compatibility with other mobile browsers to ensure the best possible experience for users."
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RE: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Laurence on Sat 5th Jan 2013 15:10 UTC in reply to "Why does HTML5 exist?"
Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

Why does HTML5 exist if Google is just going to optimize their websites for their own browser?

Google is literally, with this, killing the promise of the mobile web. When Microsoft did it with IE6 they were rightly criticized for it.

This is not understandable. Not by any stretch of imagination. It is unbelievable, and further reinforces the notion that Google is systematically locking out competing platforms.

I'm interested in how some of you will spin this.

To be fair, they do optimise their sites to run a number of other browsers, including later versions of Internet Explorer. This is just a petty move by Google backed by an even weaker argument from Google.

That said, there is still an increasing issue of sites being developed that do specifically target webkit. And not just from Google nor Apple web developers either.

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RE[2]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Nelson on Sat 5th Jan 2013 16:00 in reply to "RE: Why does HTML5 exist?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Yeah, I don't doubt their intentions were more malicious than their statement lets on, I was just addressing their excuse. Its pathetic.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Well last time we spoke you thought that was kinda of okay ...

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RE[3]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Laurence on Sun 6th Jan 2013 12:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Well last time we spoke you thought that was kinda of okay ...

No, what I said was that it's ok to have targeted -sometimes even necessary- just so long as you're not excluding browsers.

What I'm saying here is that some sites target webkit specifically and ignore other browsers.

There's a subtle but important difference between the two. One is using each browsers features to bring about the best usability experience, and the other is not supporting browsers entirely.

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