Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Jan 2013 14:53 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y And so this situation is starting to get ridiculous - and consumers are, as usual, caught in the middle of it all. Google has just blocked Windows Phone devices from accessing Google Maps on their phones. In addition, it also seems Windows Phone users are now restricted to the basic HTML version of the mobile GMail website. While understandable from a defensive perspective - Microsoft's extortion scheme targeting Android device makers and all that - it's still a massive dick move that only hurts consumers. Update: the media attention has worked - Google is backpedalling, and will remove the redirect. "We periodically test Google Maps compatibility with mobile browsers to make sure we deliver the best experience for those users. In our last test, IE mobile still did not offer a good maps experience with no ability to pan or zoom and perform basic map functionality. As a result, we chose to continue to redirect IE mobile users to where they could at least make local searches. The Firefox mobile browser did offer a somewhat better user experience and that’s why there is no redirect for those users. Recent improvements to IE mobile and Google Maps now deliver a better experience and we are currently working to remove the redirect. We will continue to test Google Maps compatibility with other mobile browsers to ensure the best possible experience for users."
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RE[7]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Nelson on Sat 5th Jan 2013 21:34 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
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While you say extortion, others say getting their just money for their intellectual property.

If the OEMs made the determination that they would rather pay Microsoft than take things to court, then it is their choice. These are not small OEMs, and if they decided that Microsoft's patents held merit, then I'd say its good on Microsoft for providing a financially viable means by which to license such technology.

If you contrast this with others who refuse to even license such patents, then Microsoft's actions are rather benign.

There is absolutely no excuse for what Google is doing.

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RE[8]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by tidux on Sat 5th Jan 2013 21:50 in reply to "RE[7]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
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Those are bullshit patents, though. Barnes and Noble, the only Android OEM without prior NDAs with Microsoft who got hit by this racket, made an enormous fuss out of how idiotic the patents really were and refused to pay.

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RE[9]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Nelson on Sun 6th Jan 2013 01:34 in reply to "RE[8]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
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But, eventually, even Barnes and Nobles took a royalty bearing license.

If they really thought they could win, and all of Microsoft's patents were invalid, and had prior art, blah blah blah, then they would've let the legal system work.

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RE[8]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Moredhas on Sat 5th Jan 2013 23:45 in reply to "RE[7]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
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OEMs capitulating doesn't imply merit of the patents at all, it's simply a statement of how hostile the current patent law environment is that they don't want to risk a court finding against them. Whether or not a patent has merit seems to have had little bearing on the outcome of the more recent court cases.

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RE[9]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by Nelson on Sun 6th Jan 2013 01:32 in reply to "RE[8]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
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That's bullshit. Numerous patents, in fact, have been invalidated by the courts and by the various Government agencies. There are more patent invalidations than patent injunctions.

The system is working as intended. OEMs are not defenseless, especially Samsung, who if you recall also took a royalty bearing license from Microsoft.

Samsung, who is currently in legal dispute with Apple, and has no issue disputing their patents, took a license for Microsoft patents rather easily. What does that tell you? Microsoft has a strong portfolio.

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